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holy ghost
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yes
tren makes me feel like night of the living dead
careful with rec drug talk
tren makes me feel like night of the living dead
careful with rec drug talk
sparetire
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1. If you are addicted to klonopins, withdrawl will/might lead you to panic attacks or seizure with sudden w/d.
2. If you have normal panic attacks, this is what it feels like - you feel like you're having a heart attack.
what are your doses of tren? If you are experiencing from tren and NOT from abusing klons or having w/ds from rec drugs, then you should reduce your dosage.
2. If you have normal panic attacks, this is what it feels like - you feel like you're having a heart attack.
what are your doses of tren? If you are experiencing from tren and NOT from abusing klons or having w/ds from rec drugs, then you should reduce your dosage.
BigCracker
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Anxiety. Most likely, anyway. I used Finaject in the early 90's. That shit had me driving to the ER thinking I was about to have "the big one" . About $15000 and 4 ER visits, bloodwork, EKG, etc later I found out that it was all in my head. The anxiety went away completely about a month after I quit taking the Fin.
Pat_McCrotch
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Hey BC do you use tren?
BigCracker
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errn247 said:
Nope, not since 1990 or so.
I can't imagine the sides being any less prevalent now that Im 17 yrs older.
Tatyana
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markshark said:
Hun, please be careful.
Chest pain could be from a number of 'non-pathological things', for example, even depression can result in chest pain (and I think you have some issues with your GF). Also muscular pain, in particular between the intercostal muscles can also cause severe chest pain.
Most of you lads are taking SO many different thing, I would try to find an alternative to the meds.
I have suffered from panic attacks, AGES ago.
I used Bach Flower Rescue Remedy, Valerian extract, and another herbal rememedy called Kalms.
Another great technique is related to Reiki for panic attacks-put both of your hands over your heart.
BTW, how old are you Mr. Mark?
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THE GOOD SUN
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it could be many things, as been said, but it does sound like anxiety.
as far as TR.EN being the culpret? hmmmmmm? ...from my experience, NO, and I've done it a bunch ...now that's not to say that it didn't help magnify the problem but I don't think it was the cause (pretty much the only thing that's ever givin' me anxiety is BO.LD)
I tried just about everything for anxiety, and this is what I found helped me the most;
*upped my cadio (there's something soothing about running on quiet streets at 2am)
*B12 injections & folic acid (800mcg am & 800mcg pm)
*meditation (and YES it does help)
*Xanax for the episodes
*and of course TIME
depression stems from dwelling in your past ...and anxiety from worring / stressing about the future or something in it
PM me if you'd like ...maybe I can help you more
as far as TR.EN being the culpret? hmmmmmm? ...from my experience, NO, and I've done it a bunch ...now that's not to say that it didn't help magnify the problem but I don't think it was the cause (pretty much the only thing that's ever givin' me anxiety is BO.LD)
I tried just about everything for anxiety, and this is what I found helped me the most;
*upped my cadio (there's something soothing about running on quiet streets at 2am)
*B12 injections & folic acid (800mcg am & 800mcg pm)
*meditation (and YES it does help)
*Xanax for the episodes
*and of course TIME
depression stems from dwelling in your past ...and anxiety from worring / stressing about the future or something in it
PM me if you'd like ...maybe I can help you more
perryscoon
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I would say its anxiety but the odd issue here is that he awoke in the middle of the night feeling like this. I've never had a panic attack directly from sleep before. That just seems odd to me. Do you remember if you were dreaming about anything before it happened? I know I sleep like total ass on Tren anyways so it doesn't sound too off-the-wall to have a midnight episode like this.
Hopefully, and most likely it wasn't a heart issue but hey I'm no doctor.
Hopefully, and most likely it wasn't a heart issue but hey I'm no doctor.
st8grad
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Yep, they all work. As would Kava and L-Theanine. I wouldn't mix benzo's with Valerian or Kava just because of the increased drowsiness. Benadryl can work if you are out of Klonopins.
L-Theanine is the amino found in Green Tea. It can be mixed with anything. It doesn't cause drowsiness but it makes you calm. It's really nice if you need something during the day. Very soothing but aides in alertness.
Wouldn't hurt to make an appt with you Dr and get bloodwork and and EKG. But with the heart pounding out of your chest is almost 99% panic attack.
L-Theanine is the amino found in Green Tea. It can be mixed with anything. It doesn't cause drowsiness but it makes you calm. It's really nice if you need something during the day. Very soothing but aides in alertness.
Wouldn't hurt to make an appt with you Dr and get bloodwork and and EKG. But with the heart pounding out of your chest is almost 99% panic attack.
tatyana_zadorozny said:
swole
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my anxiety got worse on E.Q
before i even started my cycle i've been prone to it
when my symptoms first started i thought i was having a heart attack
even went to the ER once - everything was normal - heart rate was about 85-90 which isn't even bad
now i know how to deal with my attacks, it's very important to realize it's anxiety and you can control it
cardio and a good diet def help
i tried a low dose of beta blocker and it helped but made me lethargic
my college roomie who is a pharmacist now wakes up with the same type of panic attack...i think he takes beta blockers as well to treat it
before i even started my cycle i've been prone to it
when my symptoms first started i thought i was having a heart attack
even went to the ER once - everything was normal - heart rate was about 85-90 which isn't even bad
now i know how to deal with my attacks, it's very important to realize it's anxiety and you can control it
cardio and a good diet def help
i tried a low dose of beta blocker and it helped but made me lethargic
my college roomie who is a pharmacist now wakes up with the same type of panic attack...i think he takes beta blockers as well to treat it
jacshelb
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I say be careful and switch to eod on the tren. I'm not sure what your cycle history is, but I find some good gains on 75 mg eod, same with test. But I'm guessing the test is not causing your panic.
I used to have terrible panic attacks, pre steroid use back in late teens. I mean, crazy horrible ones that would last several days. What a nightmare. I spent a lot of time getting in touch with my emotions and making sure to connect with people I could trust and talk about serious issues when I needed to. I have not had a panic attack since.
My opinion is that the terrible sides people report with tren are totally dose related. I used to use 50 mg eod and didn't even notice a thing. I slept fine and everything. Now using 75 mg eod I get night sweats and must take a benadryl before bed when on or I will only sleep a couple/few hours. I really don't plan on going much high on tren! Good luck, and stay healthy.
Jacob
I used to have terrible panic attacks, pre steroid use back in late teens. I mean, crazy horrible ones that would last several days. What a nightmare. I spent a lot of time getting in touch with my emotions and making sure to connect with people I could trust and talk about serious issues when I needed to. I have not had a panic attack since.
My opinion is that the terrible sides people report with tren are totally dose related. I used to use 50 mg eod and didn't even notice a thing. I slept fine and everything. Now using 75 mg eod I get night sweats and must take a benadryl before bed when on or I will only sleep a couple/few hours. I really don't plan on going much high on tren! Good luck, and stay healthy.
Jacob
Pat_McCrotch
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Chest pain is a broad term. it means pain in my chest. the chest is a fairly large area. there are tons of things beneth your chest. people come to the ER all the time with what they call chest pain. They freak out because of all the media hype about heart attacks and the subtle signs that can indicate heart attack.
esophogeal spasms mimicj a heart attack
bronchspasms do the same
reflux can mimic it
gall stones
chondroitis(sp) as TAT said earlier it is the space between your ribs
asthma attacks the pressure associated with and the difficukty breathing.
One time I had a brain freeze so bad my chest was in sooo much pain i thought i was going t die. i knew what it was but it hurt like hell.
If you are still that concerned about it being your heart get some labs. cardiac enzymes are detected for days sometimes after a heart attack has occurred.
Maybe it is a pinched nerve like TAT said that radiates around to the chest.
My geuss panic attack.
Pain can radiate to anywhere in the body
esophogeal spasms mimicj a heart attack
bronchspasms do the same
reflux can mimic it
gall stones
chondroitis(sp) as TAT said earlier it is the space between your ribs
asthma attacks the pressure associated with and the difficukty breathing.
One time I had a brain freeze so bad my chest was in sooo much pain i thought i was going t die. i knew what it was but it hurt like hell.
If you are still that concerned about it being your heart get some labs. cardiac enzymes are detected for days sometimes after a heart attack has occurred.
Maybe it is a pinched nerve like TAT said that radiates around to the chest.
My geuss panic attack.
Pain can radiate to anywhere in the body
i was taking ibuprofen for about a week like 1600mg/day. since i stopped taking any of it i havent had an issue. the tren is going great 75mged plus prop10mg ed, gained 14 lbs in 2 weeks already and sleeping like a baby as well. my guess it was the ibuprofen. thanks for the posts guys. im going for a full physical tomorrow so ill see how im doing.
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