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xariesj2x said:
There's only one that's "best" and it's this; http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=109&cat=0&page=1
xrsist said:
I believe it to be true. If there were something better, I would have put it in there.
Ralph_Wiggum
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Tribex Gold is the best IMO.
I got the best gains off of Tribex Gold. I have tried a different Tribulus supplement and Vitamin World's Avena Sativa complex supplement (which works similar to Tribulus), which was so-so, but not as good as Tribex.
You may want to take I3C/Dim as well. If I were you, I would give Life Extension a call (find their number at Lef.org) and tell them that you are taking a tribulus supplement and want to know how much of their DIM/I3C supplement to take.
I got the best gains off of Tribex Gold. I have tried a different Tribulus supplement and Vitamin World's Avena Sativa complex supplement (which works similar to Tribulus), which was so-so, but not as good as Tribex.
You may want to take I3C/Dim as well. If I were you, I would give Life Extension a call (find their number at Lef.org) and tell them that you are taking a tribulus supplement and want to know how much of their DIM/I3C supplement to take.
Avena sativa is not the same as avenacosides.
I could have easily put Trib in UNLEASHED but left it out simply for the fact it isn't nearly as effective as avenacosides.
DIM is a mild estrogen so it MAY have a "receptor docking" affinity somewhat like clomid. Or, as is also the case with clomid, it may just add more estrogen.
I could have easily put Trib in UNLEASHED but left it out simply for the fact it isn't nearly as effective as avenacosides.
DIM is a mild estrogen so it MAY have a "receptor docking" affinity somewhat like clomid. Or, as is also the case with clomid, it may just add more estrogen.
Ralph_Wiggum
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DIM has been recommended to me by a natural medicine doctor whom I trust. I haven't read up on the specific mechanism of how it works, but I trust his word and the many studies that back it up. Life Extension not only recommends it, but they recommend/offer blood tests as well to see its effectiveness...no placebo there. That is a route I trust more than just searching bodybuilding.com for an estrogen control supplement and hoping it is working.
At the end of the day, it is YOUR body, and I don't want to recommend anything that could harm another person due to my advice. I feel the safest bet would be to call Life Extension, do a blood test (like Life Extension's male blood panel), and take the supplementation they recommend.
At the end of the day, it is YOUR body, and I don't want to recommend anything that could harm another person due to my advice. I feel the safest bet would be to call Life Extension, do a blood test (like Life Extension's male blood panel), and take the supplementation they recommend.
Ralph_Wiggum said:
I never said DIM was placebo. It's been shown to increase 2hydroxy and 2 metoxy estrones, which are considered the "good" estrogens. Calcium D Glucerate (also recommened by Life Extension) LOWERS estrogen but leaves the 2hydoxy and 2methoxys. Chrysin (also recommended by Life Extention) will lower overall estrogen when combined with Bioperine (also recommended by Life Extension). All of these ingredients are included in "POST-CYCLE" from www.proteinfactory.com
Life Extension does some good stuff but I can't say I'm in total agreement with them all the time , nor are they recogmized by the AMA. They're an"alternative" treatment organization who sell products -- lots of good and well researched products, but they're a business nonetheless.
Ralph_Wiggum
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Nelson Montana said:
I agree. They do sell product, so you have to get you have to keep that in mind.
I think the Post-Cycle is a good product from what is listed in the description.
Dodder See Extract (Cuscuta), Horny Goat Weed (Epimedium), and Catuaba extract mixed up in a citrus based drink (for taste) works extremely well.
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