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THE NEXT 2 BLURBS COME FROM TMAG URL'S ARE AS FOLLOW
MINERALS DO'S http://t-mag.com/articles/spec_edi.html

Monkeying DONT'S http://www.testosterone.net/html/body_128doc.html

DO
Steps to Jacked Juice
Minerals that matter.

What I'm about to tell you is so simple and cheap, you might not believe it. But not only is it true, it's a very important and powerful component to our goal. There are a couple of minerals that seem to be chronically depleted from our bodies (at least significantly enough to effect hormone levels). Studies show that by supplementing your diet with specific amounts of zinc and magnesium, you can elevate testosterone levels by as much as 30 percent! I think it's kinda cool that all you have to do is take an inexpensive mineral pill and your T levels jump up 30 points.

There's actually a scientist who's devoted quite a bit of time to zinc and magnesium supplementation. His name is Victor Conte and his company is Balco Labs. Balco Labs has conducted research to determine the exact amount of zinc and magnesium required to replenish an athlete's stores of these precious minerals.

Their studies have just been accepted for publication in Sports Medicine, Training, and Rehabilitation Journal. Furthermore, Conte has conducted exhaustive tests with 21 professional bodybuilders and most of the Denver Broncos football team, and all his findings have confirmed his theories.

Based on their findings, They've been able to determine that the best dose is 30 mg of zinc and 450 mg of magnesium taken once per day (three capsules taken between dinner and bed time). And no, conventional from-the-drugstore zinc and magnesium doesn't work as well. As an example, Charles Poliquin suffers from a congenital magnesium deficiency. It caused him to suffer a heart attack a few years back. It also killed two of his brothers and his father.

Despite taking conventional magnesium supplementation up the wazoo, his blood levels of magnesium failed to budge. However, once he started taking Conte's ZMA, his magnesium levels soared to high-normal. Clearly, Conte is on to something.


ZMA IS A SUPPLIMENT IM SORRY I THINK YOU CAN ACHIEVE THIS WITHOUT THE LATEST BICEPT PILL
I WOULD USE THE DOSAGE DISCUSSED AND LOOK FOR A CHANGE IN MYSELF (CHEAPER THAN REPEATED BLOODTESTS)

DONT


Monkeying with the blood test

In order to lower your Testosterone levels, you'll have to do some moderately drastic things. In fact, this will be a pain in the ass! Now, I realize that all this borders on the verge of excess, but hey, if you want it bad enough, you'll be willing to make some rather extreme sacrifices.

First, decrease calorie intake for about a week. If you can, don't eat 24 to 48 hours before the blood draw. When you do eat, eliminate carbs and fat. You'll only be eating protein during the week and preferably nothing the last 24 to 48 hours, except for a drink. The drink will be alcohol.

That's right, this will be the only time I'll actually recommend drinking, but it'll help. To be on the safe side, drink 3 to 5 beers (or equivalent in liquor) a day for 6 to10 days prior to the test. The night before the test, go ahead and have 6 or 7, or whatever it takes to get you drunk enough not to drive. About two hours prior to the test, have 3 to 4 beers.

Since this will all be on an empty stomach, you should have someone drive you to the office and back. Try not to grab the nurse's ass if you start to get tipsy and if there's a lamp in the office, try not to wear the shade as a hat while singing The Village People's "YMCA," accompanied by the appropriate hand motions.

As far as training, you'll be training twice a day including cardio for this entire week in order to raise cortisol levels. This will lower Testosterone as well. I'd also like you to get very little sleep. Around 3 to 4 hours per night and zero sleep the night before the big test. In other words, do everything ass-backwards!

You could also try a birth control pill. However, I don't have any first-hand experience with this method, so I can't say how well it'll work. If what you're trying to get is Arimidex (by displaying elevated estrogen levels), you could try the pill along with androstendione, although I probably wouldn't do it personally.

To really put yourself over the edge, try to watch as many reruns as possible of Designing Women on Lifetime. Your T levels are sure to plummet, unless you decide to kill yourself or become an interior decorator first. Seriously, you may also want to pick up some licorice root. Take around 3,000 mg a day for 6 to10 days until the test. I do, however, want to warn you that you'll need to get plenty of potassium in your diet, as licorice will lower potassium levels. Neglecting this aspect, especially if you're going to be drinking alcohol, too, can be dangerous.

All of these things combined should dramatically reduce your T-levels to the point where you'll qualify for replacement. Oh yeah, and try not to partake in any sexual activity. You'll probably be too fatigued to "bone" anyhow.


MY CONCLUSIONS
take zinc and magnesium supplementation

30 mg of zinc and 450 mg of magnesium taken once per day (taken between dinner and bed time).


eat all three pro carb and fat (try for good fats)
and eat enough to grow

sleep sleep enough to grow

work out enought to grow
but not to much no over training

any other ideas for non brand name supplemintation or procedures for maximizing off cycle (or just natural) tes levels im listening
 
i think tim patterson is a pretty smart guy here are his refs and im lookin for more info
im gonna try it and if i dont feel different im gonna stop



References

1) Gwercman A, Carlsen E, Keiding N, Skakkebaek NE: Evidence for increasing incidence of abnormalities of the human testis: a review. Environ Health Perspect 1993 Jul;101 Suppl 2:65-71.
2) Carlsen E, Gwercman AJ, Keiding N, Skakkebaek NE: [Decline in semen quality from 1930 to 1991]. Ugeskr Laeger 1993 Aug 16;155(33):2530-5.
3) Harrison PT, Holmes P, Humfrey CD: Reproductive health in humans and wildlife: are adverse trends associated with environmental chemical exposure? Sci Total Environ 1997 Oct 20;205(2-3):97-106.
4) Kuiper GG, Lemmen JG, Carlsson B, et al: Interation of estrogenic chemicals and phytoestrogens with estrogen receptor beta. Endocrinology 1998 Oct;139(10):4252-63.
5) Martin B, Day M: Fresh alarm over threatened sperm. New Scientist, 1997 Jan 11;Vol 153 No 2064.
6) Griffin J, Ojeda S: Textbook of Endocrine Physiology: Third Edition. 1996 Oxford University Press.
 
Suprsaiyan2 All of that for a measily 30% test increase?? No thanks, I'll stick with the real deal

whoa hold up i said "off cycle" not "feels like deca"
no way man you keep "doin the dew" and be big but sometimes pull the needle out
 
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