natural protien, cheaper and more effective

[justwannagetsum]

Hey all, I just thought I would throw this out there.
I have been eating lean cuts of steak everyday instead of drinking protein shakes and bars. My muscle weight gain has been really solid.you can get a good cut (although chewy) of lean meat that has less then 4g fat per serving, and it is absorbed better and contains a better distribution of amino acids for close to or cheaper then shakes/bars. these are some of the cuts, usually 2-3$ a lb.
eye Round steak,london broil,top round, bottom round, some cube steaks. More expensive but also lean, sirloin, tenderloin. A one pound steak has about 100-150 grams of protein. And this is made of muscle, so the protien distribution is damned near perfect.
JWGS

 

[doubles1]

how many servings in a lb...i can easily eat a pound of steak dont feel like its got 150g's of protein clear up the confusion!!!

 

[justwannagetsum]

1 serving is usually considered 4 oz, 4 servings in a lb. depending on how lean it is, 25-35 grams protien per serving. 100-140 grams in a lb of steak.

 

[Silent Method]

you can get a good cut (although chewy) of lean meat that has less then 4g fat per serving, and it is absorbed better and contains a better distribution of amino acids for close to or cheaper then shakes/bars.

I'm all for eating "real" food first. But actually, whey is aborbed much better than any meat protein. Egg albumin as well. And I think argument can be made that these two provide ALL the aminos you need.

 

[Bill W]

I am with you 100%. I do drink shakes for conveniance, but I was between jobs for a while and had the luxury of cooking and eating my meals whenever I wanted. I rarely drank shakes and I think my performance in the gym was superior.

 

[justwannagetsum]

I'm all for eating "real" food first. But actually, whey is aborbed much better than any meat protein. Egg albumin as well. And I think argument can be made that these two provide ALL the aminos you need.

Egg albumin is the most complete protien, however most ppl here are looking for protien that will translate to usefulness to muscle growth, so although it is complete, it isnt best for growth(it contains protiens that are used for enzymes, hormones, etc) Meat protien is muscle fiber, therefore well suited to put muscle on. Whey protien is not absorbed better, but slower. Whey protien is ideal for before bed. Its slow rate of absorbtion allows it to "feed" resting muscles all night.

 

[Spunky]

whey protein is ideal before bed?? i think u are referring to casein my friend. whey is absorbed rather quickly.

 

[Bill W]

I'm with spunky. You can slow down the absorbsion of whey somewhat by using milk as the liquid and maybe adding some natural peanut butter.

 

[javaguru]

I get approximately 400g of protein for $6.00 with my Milk protein Isolate from the Protein Factory.

 

[Willyumyum]

It's better to get your protein from natural sources, rather than drinking a shitload of shakes during the day...

I generally only drink one shake a day(post workout)... unless I am running to class, then I MIGHT have a second if I dont have time to cook.... but never more than that..

YUM

 

[JMasters]

In my opinion I dont think a bodybuilder can get enough protein thru food alone. That is why shakes are important. It is just too much food to eat to keep everything balanced.I don't know a bodybuilder that doesnt drink shakes. However i am not knocking that the natural protein (in food) is better quality protein. Because it is!

--JMasters

 

[Silent Method]

Egg albumin is the most complete protien, however most ppl here are looking for protien that will translate to usefulness to muscle growth, so although it is complete, it isnt best for growth(it contains protiens that are used for enzymes, hormones, etc) Meat protien is muscle fiber, therefore well suited to put muscle on.

This is false. Your body doesn't care what the aminos came from, your freaking DNA says how you'll use them.

Whey protien is not absorbed better, but slower. Whey protien is ideal for before bed. Its slow rate of absorbtion allows it to "feed" resting muscles all night.

I think your mixed up. Whey is "in and out" within two hours. Casein is generally pushed as a great before bedtime supplement because of its slow absorbtion. It's interesting to note that while whey has an acute affect on increased anabolism, casein is less "anabolic" but strongly "anti-catabolic."

 

[bigguns7]

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Meat protien is muscle fiber, therefore well suited to put muscle on. Whey protien is not absorbed better, but slower. Whey protien is ideal for before bed. Its slow rate of absorbtion allows it to "feed" resting muscles all night.

Are you implying that eating muscle makes you grow muscle? I think we drink whey protein because we need instantaneous protein directly after a workout. You don't have to marinate or cook whey protein, and it is immediately usable by the body. Of course we need food, but whey protein is an essential supplement in gaining muscle.

I'm also not sure if your cells can tell whether the protein flowing into them is from a cow or from an egg.

 

[BIGDOMINICK]

IT WOULD BE NICE IF SOMEONE WHO ACCTUALY NEW WHAT THEY

WERE TALKING ABOUT WOULD POST, THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION

BUT EVERY ONE SEEMS TO BE THROWING OUT ANSWERS THAT ARE

OPPINIONS, I DONT KNOW WHAT THE BEST FORM OF PROTIEN IS

BUT IT DOSNT SEEM THAT ANY ONE HERE DOSE EITHER......

ANY MODS OUT THERE KNOW THE ANSWER????????


BIGDOMINICK,

 

[BIGDOMINICK]

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[Silent Method]

Cill out BIGDOMINICK. Read my posts, they are accurate or a great deal of nutritional science is wrong.

Whey has a BV (biological value ,i.e. how much your body actualy absorbs) of between 104-159 depending on the blend. Beef has a BV of 80. Whey is packed full of alanine (as well as loads of branched-chain aminos) which is of extreme importance. Beef has a good deal of alanine too, but again your body will better utilize the whey.

 

[gwl9dta4]

This is an interesting thread and there are many opinions. But as someone who took in as many as 2 cans of Designer Whey per week plus food in the past i will state my opinon.

I have never HONESTLY fealt that whey was all that. It left me with a very hungry unsatisfied feeling within half to 1 hour after consuming it, IMO it's all marketing as i took notice of the Arnold era of bodybuilders and read his books and they did not have all the types of protein we have today, yet their growth was not limited. So the protein they consumed was not a limiting factor in their growth, that we can all agree on.

But protein shakes are definitely convinient. But i have to be honest here. I have noticed in the past that when i had a steak with a plain potato or a plate of tuna steaks with pasta i fealt great. One time after consuming a filet mignion steak with one big potato i almost immediately fealt wired, pumped and ready to go right into the gym, it literally fealt like i had a pump after a few sets in all my sore muscles, this happened time after time when i ate a rare bloody steak. I can not explain it, except that i dropped why protein like a ton of bricks. Food from then on was my 1st and 2nd source of protein.

No misley powder can equal the power of food, no matter what the BV% of the powder, it's millions of years of evolution and our body is not as dumb as we think, i feel it can tell where the aminos are coming from, there is still a lot that science has not discovered about how we work.

After eating a juicy bloody steak, be it beef or tuna i literally feel like i took a ephedrine, i feel extremly enegrized and pumped, something that a powder could NEVER do for me, and i tried.



Sincerely

 

[darkvader111]

Great post, so many views, forces me to do my research and find out what is best for me. Thanks for all the info. bros

 

[Silent Method]

I have never HONESTLY fealt that whey was all that. It left me with a very hungry unsatisfied feeling within half to 1 hour after consuming it,

Whey has very little satiety, this is no suprise - it's a freaking powder. It's a supplement and should be used as just that, a supplement. Food first, I'm with you their.

 

[gwl9dta4]

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[justwannagetsum]

This is false. Your body doesn't care what the aminos came from, your freaking DNA says how you'll use them.

While this may be partially true, muscle requires a certain sequence of amino acids, it may for instance require a higher conc of short chain amino acids. the availability of these aminos is crucial.

Are you implying that eating muscle makes you grow muscle?
In a way , yes. No eating muscle wont make you grow muscle, but if you want to take in a protien with a distribution closer to what your muscle requires, then yes, eating muscle makes it easier for our body to synthesize muscle fibers.


whey protein is ideal before bed?? i think u are referring to casein my friend
I stand corrected.