Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below When having a package sent to your home...is it best advised to use a different name? I had packages sent to my home in the past with my name on it...but I just want to see if I can play it any safer. Also, I live in an apt. building so mail gets sorted in the building and I'm affraid that if I put a different name on it....they may give it back to the postman/post office. Any advice? Perhaps spelling the name a few letters off?
Name on package...
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The misspelled or boigus name won't help you if you accept the package. The acceptance is the key to establishing probable cause to arrest and/or execute a search warrant.
RW
RW
Accepatance establishes probable cause only if you sign for it. (which you should never do) Use a name that's close to yours. In other words, if your name is Victor Zonka, use Vincent Zomla. As soon as you get the package write in magic marker on it, WRONG ADDRESS RETURN TO SENDER. In this way, even if you're stopped, the evidence is tainted and you can claim it wasn't yours, was never meant to be yours, and you didn't want it.
It's no guarentee and you'll still have a legal hassle, but it puts the odds in your favor. And if it's stopped before it gets to you, it's put in the files under Viincent Zomla.
It's no guarentee and you'll still have a legal hassle, but it puts the odds in your favor. And if it's stopped before it gets to you, it's put in the files under Viincent Zomla.
Accepatance establishes probable cause only if you sign for it.
This is absolutely not true. A signature bolsters the People's case, but is not a condition precedent to establish probable cause. The signature assists law enforcement in proving that the package was accepted. Accepting possession is the condition precedent to establishing probable cause. (LEGAL MUSCLE pg. 219)
(which you should never do) Use a name that's close to yours. In other words, if your name is Victor Zonka, use Vincent Zomla. As soon as you get the package write in magic marker on it, WRONG ADDRESS RETURN TO SENDER. In this way, even if you're stopped, the evidence is tainted and you can claim it wasn't yours, was never meant to be yours, and you didn't want it.
It's no guarentee and you'll still have a legal hassle, but it puts the odds in your favor.
Not necessarily. Law enforcement may offer their testimony that the "return to sender" technique is the modus operandi for those receiving such packages.
Didn't Rick give you a copy of LEGAL MUSCLE???
RW
This is absolutely not true. A signature bolsters the People's case, but is not a condition precedent to establish probable cause. The signature assists law enforcement in proving that the package was accepted. Accepting possession is the condition precedent to establishing probable cause. (LEGAL MUSCLE pg. 219)
(which you should never do) Use a name that's close to yours. In other words, if your name is Victor Zonka, use Vincent Zomla. As soon as you get the package write in magic marker on it, WRONG ADDRESS RETURN TO SENDER. In this way, even if you're stopped, the evidence is tainted and you can claim it wasn't yours, was never meant to be yours, and you didn't want it.
It's no guarentee and you'll still have a legal hassle, but it puts the odds in your favor.
Not necessarily. Law enforcement may offer their testimony that the "return to sender" technique is the modus operandi for those receiving such packages.
Didn't Rick give you a copy of LEGAL MUSCLE???
RW
The miss-spelling protocol has been debated many times but i do think that RW has an excellent point with
''Law enforcement may offer their testimony that the "return to sender" technique is the modus operandi for those receiving such packages''
No matter if you accepted or not.
TBH if it is known you are recieving AAS in the USA with the laws that currently surround it a miss-spelt name will not prevent anything
Wrongun!
''Law enforcement may offer their testimony that the "return to sender" technique is the modus operandi for those receiving such packages''
No matter if you accepted or not.
TBH if it is known you are recieving AAS in the USA with the laws that currently surround it a miss-spelt name will not prevent anything
Wrongun!
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satchboogie
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NORMA-MAN said:
the reciever will still go to jail.
but the odds are favorable for a dismissal of charges.
nadr7891
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i'm no lawyer, but if you slightly alter your name and don't sign for or open the package, whether or not you write something on it i don't see how a case against you could ever be successfully prosecuted. they could make your life miserable, for sure, but i doubt they could convict you of anything without proof that you actually ordered the items or paid for the items in addition to receiving the package-- assuming you have decent representation, of course.
"almost forgot. if you have any other gear in the home when "it" happens i would think you're fucked."
That's right, because law enforcement is going to excute an anticipatory search warrant. Once the package has been accepted, with a signature or not, probable cause is established.
In Perkins v. State [244 Ga. App. 3412 (2000)], a law enforcement officer testified that he had been involved in more than 50 controlled deliveries. In that time he had never seen a true name on a package. Another officer testified that he had been involved in 40 controlled deliveries and only saw three packages with the true name.
The court held that there was a "grave suspicion" that the defendant was the intended recipient AND was aware of the contents of the package. (LEGAL MUSCLE, pg. 222)
RW
That's right, because law enforcement is going to excute an anticipatory search warrant. Once the package has been accepted, with a signature or not, probable cause is established.
In Perkins v. State [244 Ga. App. 3412 (2000)], a law enforcement officer testified that he had been involved in more than 50 controlled deliveries. In that time he had never seen a true name on a package. Another officer testified that he had been involved in 40 controlled deliveries and only saw three packages with the true name.
The court held that there was a "grave suspicion" that the defendant was the intended recipient AND was aware of the contents of the package. (LEGAL MUSCLE, pg. 222)
RW
