My theory of frontloading on fast acting AS's

[Audio8]

Frontloading seems to be getting very popular now, and rightfully so. But why limit it to only slow acting steroids, like deca? I think you can apply frontloading to any steroid.

When I took Dbol's for the first time, I split them up throughout the day, but I would only "feel" the effects at night, after my last dose. It seems that throughout the day, my levels gradually increased even though I was splitting a fixed amount, 3 times daily. Thus, the fall-off rate may be slower than what has been pressumed. Now, assuming that constant levels give better results than unstable levels, would it not be correct to assume that this method of even doses is not as effecient as it could be? Based on what I have experienced with Dbol's in particular, I believe that taking, lets say, 15-20mg in the morning, then 5mg throughout the day (3 times or so) would be optimal. This way, you get the levels up quickly and sustain the levels through small periodic doses. And I bleieve that you can also apply this theory with other fast acting steroids as well.

I know alot of you guys really do your homework. I would like to know what you think about this method, and give any scientific evidence to back up your opinion if possible. Thanks.

 

[ORANGE_JUICER]

hey i like that theory, ill try it next week when i get my pinkies

 

[Audio8]

thanks orange.....bump

 

[the_paradise_garage]

frontloading?
could any of you exlain?
thanks

Gerardo *

 

[TxLonghorn]

frontloading?
could any of you exlain?
thanks

Gerardo *

Do a search. It has been discussed ad nauseum the last 2 weeks.

 

[the_paradise_garage]

oh yah
damn why do i forget to do the freaking search?

 

[Audio8]

lol, yo Tx...what do you think? mustang? zyg? zen? ad? anyone?

 

[The Iron Game]

You are growing at rest, your body needs to be kept in an anabolic or anti catabolic state with dbol for as long as possible, optimum time being 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

By taking all or most of your tabs at the begining of the day you are creating a spike within hours after you have consumed it and by 3.5-4.2 hours is its half life. This means as with injectables you should consume according to its half life. One tab every 4 hours, not three times a day as you were doing before.

After this spike you get declining levels until you feed yourself some more dbol.

How many people use 60mgs of dbol + a day? Not many or the newer guys. So If they took 20-25mgs in the morning they would only have one or two tabs left if lucky to use during the day.

The only reason to use dbol all at once is for minimal disruption to the hpt axis

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

that's the way I've taken D-bol...first dose in the morning is 10mg, then 5 mg 2 times throughout the day and 10mg just before sleeping (since will not be taking any for 8 hours).

This cycle though I am keeping my water intake very very high, so I always end up waking up in the middle of the night to take a piss. At this point I pop a d-bol and eat something. This allows me to keep the d-bol at 5mg every 4 hours.

 

[Audio8]

So If they took 20-25mgs in the morning they would only have one or two tabs left if lucky to use during the day.

Iron Game, just for clarification, I said 15-20mg in the morning, thus leaving 2-6 more 5mg doses left throughout the day.

I know convention is about 1 tab every 4 hours, but in some situations, it's more prudent to listen to your body than what people are telling you. Based on my theory (15-20mg in morning and 1 tab every few hours), I feel the effects of the Dbol throughout the day, instead of just for a few hours at night. Everyone reacts differently, but I think that if you try this (assuming your not numb yet to the noticable effects of Dbol), then you'll see what I'm talking about. Give it a shot.

 

[The Iron Game]

[]Iron Game, just for clarification, I said 15-20mg in the morning, thus leaving 2-6 more 5mg doses left throughout the day.

the typical newbie cycle is 30mgs dbol daily, so that would leave only 2-3 tabs spare

I know convention is about 1 tab every 4 hours, but in some situations, it's more prudent to listen to your body than what people are telling you. Based on my theory (15-20mg in morning and 1 tab every few hours), I feel the effects of the Dbol throughout the day, instead of just for a few hours at night. Everyone reacts differently, but I think that if you try this (assuming your not numb yet to the noticable effects of Dbol), then you'll see what I'm talking about. Give it a shot. [/B]

I know it is better to listen to your body sometimes but dbol peaks very soon once released into the body. so you need a constant supply for maximum effects rather than a peak in the morning and decline during the rest of the day. If you did wish to take it this way it would be better suited an 45minutes to an hour or so before a workout.

Also take with grapefruit juice

 

[Andy13]

Frontloading seems to be getting very popular now, and rightfully so. But why limit it to only slow acting steroids, like deca? I think you can apply frontloading to any steroid.

Yes.. You certainly can apply front loading to any injectable AAS.

When I took Dbol's for the first time, I split them up throughout the day, but I would only "feel" the effects at night, after my last dose.

I certainly don't doubt you *felt* something.. However.. I have to believe this was some kind of placebo.. Like IG said, building muscle is a 24hr process... So your best bet is to split up the dose and take it throughout the day (and night).

Your goal should be to have even blood concentrations of dbol in your system for as long as you are taking the drug.

Andy

 

[Andy13]

Hey bro-- You know that ephedrine works at burning fat even when you sometimes don't feel the CNS stimulation???

That's because the "feel" of ephedrine is a "side effect" to it's fat burning.. After a while you can't "feel" ephedrine anymore but that doesn't mean it's not working to burn fat.. They are two different effects of ephedrine that are not related.

I think this is the case with you and your dbol.. You can't *feel* yourself grow at different times of the day... Again, it's a 24hr process...

So make believe that the "feel" you get from dbol is a side effect and that you actually make the most muscle gains when you are at a consistant blood concentration.

Andy

 

[Audio8]

I think this is the case with you and your dbol.. You can't *feel* yourself grow at different times of the day... Again, it's a 24hr process...

Good point andy. But doesn't it make sense that the more you feel the "effects" of a drug, the more it is affecting your body? Don't you think that there's more or less a direct correlation there? Sure it still may be "doing it's thing" when you don't feel it's effects, but more likely to a lesser extent.

Just a little point counter-point going on

 

[TxLonghorn]

I don't know. I typically take my orals 2-3 times during the day, but there are tons of guys who take them all at once, some only on workout days, etc. And it always seems to work. It may not be optimal, however the results seem to be comparable.

I think you need to blend a little practicality with the science. And don't sweat the small shit.