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My Test Results On Tbol

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DieselGunz

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I recently had blood work done for life insurance I was 4 days into PCT from British Dragon Tbol at 40mgs a day for about 5 weeks and my values were out of the range :worried:

I knew they would be high but I was on tylers detox cran extract and drinking as much water as I could and my bad cholesteral was still high as where my liver values.

So now my insurance has doubled because of it and I have to go to a specialist. I know it was because of the tbol, i should level out in couple of weeks or so but we will see, i am going to get retested in 6 weeks.

So much for being side free
 
turinabol was only really touted because it could beat the old tests (hence was widely used).

the cholesterol and liver values are not surprising, even with tylers. especially since you were only 4 days into PCT. Liver values for Bb'rs are always high. the cholesterol is all tbol, were you taking an AI or not. just tbol? any other supps?
 
DieselGunz said:
I recently had blood work done for life insurance I was 4 days into PCT from British Dragon Tbol at 40mgs a day for about 5 weeks and my values were out of the range :worried:

I knew they would be high but I was on tylers detox cran extract and drinking as much water as I could and my bad cholesteral was still high as where my liver values.

So now my insurance has doubled because of it and I have to go to a specialist. I know it was because of the tbol, i should level out in couple of weeks or so but we will see, i am going to get retested in 6 weeks.

So much for being side free
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Sorry to hear that DG... Tbol is supposed to be relatively liver and cholesterol friendly (at least in comparison to other orals)... maybe you should've waited a while longer before having the bloodwork done.... though the OT was out of your system fast enough, the effects on your body obviously were still there... try some flush-free niacin, and policosinol... and make sure you're getting your EFA's (flax oil)

good luck bro!
 
you can ask for a re-test, say that you think the values were in error (normally they give you a 30-45 day window to do so)

run
red yeast rice extract
sesapure
EGCG
policosanol
fish oil
flax oil
nolva will help as well
Increase cardio

dont train for 2 days prior to retest. in 30 days that regimen should at least lower your bad cholesterol and somewhat raise your good.
 
I have read conflicting reports on whether or not Red Yeast Rice will effect liver values as well?

Any input?

Good luck DieselGunz...I am sure the levels will come down
 
man that sucks to hear your liver values and cholesterol went up...i'm in the middle of my 4th week of tbol at 50mg/day....hopefully things will be okay/better for me when i get off and get tested a month or so later.
 
DieselGunz said:
I am learning that now, I am going to be getting my results soon.
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im sorry to hear about that bro.
i would do as mentioned above, tell them you think there was an error and ask to be retested...
good luck, keep us updated
 
DieselGunz said:
I am going to try that when we have a meeting this Friday.
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you should emphasize that you are an athelete and that heavy training often produces erroneous results.

if you take creatine or PureCEE your urinary creatinine will be very high (even higher than with training).

differentiate yourself as "Different" but healthy- more so than the average person.
 
damn diesel i feel terrible man. do you feel alright. your making me want to throw my tbol away asap.
 
I'm sorry your rates got doubled Diesel! Thats fucked up! I know I've recommended Tbol to you many times :worried:. I don't have insurance and I pay for private blood tests, so I've never even thought about that. IMO shitty cholesterol and liver values are a given with most if not all orals though, and to some extent cholesterol with injectables too. The thing is, that shit is temporary, unlike gyno and serious hairloss, and doesn't usually bother guys as much as bloat. So cholesterol rarely gets mentioned when comparing sides.
I know that doesn't help you now though. If you ever do decide to run an oral again, I completely agree with Macro's list of ancillaries, and I would suggest flush-free niacin and Co-Q10 as well. That stack can actually keep your values pretty good while on cycle. The thing that scares me with all AAS is high blood pressure.

Good luck man, I hope you can get a retest. They should have at least followed it up before they doubled your rates!
 
mendo said:
I'm sorry your rates got doubled Diesel! Thats fucked up! I know I've recommended Tbol to you many times :worried:. I don't have insurance and I pay for private blood tests, so I've never even thought about that. IMO shitty cholesterol and liver values are a given with most if not all orals though, and to some extent cholesterol with injectables too. The thing is, that shit is temporary, unlike gyno and serious hairloss, and doesn't usually bother guys as much as bloat. So cholesterol rarely gets mentioned when comparing sides.
I know that doesn't help you now though. If you ever do decide to run an oral again, I completely agree with Macro's list of ancillaries, and I would suggest flush-free niacin and Co-Q10 as well. That stack can actually keep your values pretty good while on cycle. The thing that scares me with all AAS is high blood pressure.

Good luck man, I hope you can get a retest. They should have at least followed it up before they doubled your rates!
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Not your fault and i appreciate all your help, the bottom line is orals tax your liver and increase your bad cholesterol. I think I was just nieve to think they would not affect me so much, i mean the insurance agency wants me to go to specialist cause think I am in bad shape. I know it was just the AAS so i am not worried 2 much I will shit a brick if they dont go down tho.

Time will tell.
 
DieselGunz said:
Macro thanx again......Bruce i am doing fine just sorta making me think twice about doing a oral.

Strong can u say EQ? lol
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does that mean you are ready?
welcome to the dark side my friend.
 
DieselGunz said:
Not your fault and i appreciate all your help, the bottom line is orals tax your liver and increase your bad cholesterol. I think I was just nieve to think they would not affect me so much, i mean the insurance agency wants me to go to specialist cause think I am in bad shape. I know it was just the AAS so i am not worried 2 much I will shit a brick if they dont go down tho.

Time will tell.
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Not to scare you bro, but did you ever get checked for Hepatitis? I'm sure the speciealist they're sending you to is going to check for this. It's probably highly unlikely but beter safe then sorry...
 
i cant figure out why you would have the test is you knew you were coming off. not flaming by any means but that was definately not a smart move. now you have to deal with that and higher ins. costs, that shit is already expensive as hell. hope things work out for you.
 
In 45 days you can really turn those values around.

I had cholesterol panel of 14/158 when I came off cycle. EXACTLY 30 days later I was retested and had brought my HDL's up to 48.

Niacin
High fiber diet
flax oil

was all that I did. The diet plays a big roll in this.
 
DieselGunz said:
Not your fault and i appreciate all your help, the bottom line is orals tax your liver and increase your bad cholesterol. I think I was just nieve to think they would not affect me so much, i mean the insurance agency wants me to go to specialist cause think I am in bad shape. I know it was just the AAS so i am not worried 2 much I will shit a brick if they dont go down tho.

Time will tell.
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Hey DG... don't be quick to dismiss orals for those reasons... as stated before, most AAS will tax your system to an extent.... most of them screw your cholesterol, even injectables...as for your liver, injectables can affect those too, though maybe not as much as orals....

When I took niacin, policosinol, and EFA's during my last cycle, my cholesterol values came back pretty good... give it time and get tested again

good luck!
 
DieselGunz said:
Not your fault and i appreciate all your help, the bottom line is orals tax your liver and increase your bad cholesterol. I think I was just nieve to think they would not affect me so much, i mean the insurance agency wants me to go to specialist cause think I am in bad shape. I know it was just the AAS so i am not worried 2 much I will shit a brick if they dont go down tho.

Time will tell.
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Well..did you get good results from your cycle at least?????
 
I was sorta forced into taking the blood test, I did not want nor did I know I was going to have to. You live and you learn, i did not think it was going to be so bad...elevated yes but not almost double.

Resuts? I was 208 in my avi I was 218-221 on tbol with slightly higher BF% With out a doubt I gained quality weight, I cant even fit into any of my dress shirts now. My stamin was through the roof and the pumps where insane, it is good stuff without a doubt just harder on the body than I thought.

If i do go again it will be EQ
 
sorry to hear deisel would var be a good replacement of is that hard on everything to? Anyway. I am sure everything will even out. O and I am sure you will love eq!!! good luck with that next test bro!
 
DieselGunz said:
I THINK var would be milder but not sure i never got bloodwork done when I was on var
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Var will screw your cholesterol just as much but not your liver in my experience.

In my case I find HDL / LDL returns to normal pretty quickly (ie. 2 to 3 months), eat well and take the supps already mentioned to speed things up as much as poss. For me, I've had those scary negative numbers on a few blood tests following a cycle but have recovered following a good break coupled with clean eating and cardio.

It's part and parcel of using orals, it's important not to do long oral cycles - get on and get off and keep your health, keep your gains!

NOTE: It's more of a UK thing but some of us here cycle orals (usually Var or Dbol) 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, eg. during a test / deca based 3 month run (some just run orals alone like this over 3 months)... seems to work for a few from what I've heard, less negative health effects.
 
sigmund said:
NOTE: It's more of a UK thing but some of us here cycle orals (usually Var or Dbol) 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, eg. during a test / deca based 3 month run (some just run orals alone like this over 3 months)... seems to work for a few from what I've heard, less negative health effects.
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Thats basically what I do with Tbol. Usually around 3 weeks on 3 weeks off. Works great for me. I'm thinking of trying it with Dbol+Aromasin.
 
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