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WolfPack Charlie
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Not bad, just a little short. But then again, thats just personal preference. Good luck!
250 E5D is not enough and 100 E3D of NPP is not enough. Listen to Dial_tone and your elders.
It just doesn't make sense to do a cycle like that. You would see twice the gains by doubling that and no more sides. You're going to take all the same chances with buying illegal AS, shooting it, recovering from it, and come away with half the gains.
It just doesn't make sense to do a cycle like that. You would see twice the gains by doubling that and no more sides. You're going to take all the same chances with buying illegal AS, shooting it, recovering from it, and come away with half the gains.
I must disagree. 250mg E5D IS enough to see gains. That's more than 250mg/week and I've seen plenty of people make gains on that. Add in over 200mg/week of nandrolone, and he'll gain. Sure he'd gain more with higher doses, and probably not get much more sides, but it's his call. I would run it higher and longer also, but that's personal preference... he can can for sure on those doses.
Who said that he wouldn't see gains? No one said that.
What I said was that it doesn't make sense to...
buy illegal drugs and risk jail
use illegal drugs and risk jail
shoot AS and risk infection
go through the expense of PCT
and then gain half as much as you could using normal doses. Universities and research clinics are using 600mg/wk in their research now. They give that to hundreds of men at a time. If it wasn't safe they wouldn't do it. No one is saying he should do more than he's comfortable with. But he's is unaware of what the average "safe" level IS. Or he wouldn't propose a cycle like that.
What I said was that it doesn't make sense to...
buy illegal drugs and risk jail
use illegal drugs and risk jail
shoot AS and risk infection
go through the expense of PCT
and then gain half as much as you could using normal doses. Universities and research clinics are using 600mg/wk in their research now. They give that to hundreds of men at a time. If it wasn't safe they wouldn't do it. No one is saying he should do more than he's comfortable with. But he's is unaware of what the average "safe" level IS. Or he wouldn't propose a cycle like that.
You didn't say he wouldn't gain, but you did say that both of his doses were "not enough". I just disagreed on that point. Whether or not he's aware of how much is generally recognized as "safe" is irrelevant. Since we don't know what his goals are and how he responds to low doses, there's no way we can actually know if he's taking enough or not. Since he will see results on the doses he listed, then without knowing any more, I believe he will see gains and he's taking enough. Like I said before, I agree with you that he'd see more gains with minimal extra sides with more gear, and the same level of risk. I just like to play devil's advocate now and again 
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