My second cycle. opinions?

[evgeny]

I was thinking of doing this for my second cycle.

1-4 20mg/ed dbol
1-10 500mg/ew test e

PCT with clomid

10mg nolvadex ED for 11 weeks or something?

My first cycle i just ended. Starting PCT in a week or so. Did primobolan 8 weeks @ 400mg/ew. Have gained 14lb with no bloat at all. My strength has increased very well. My weight now is 200lb with about 10% bf and hight is 185cm.

So what u think about the second cycle. My goal is to gain more mass and volume.

 

[silverbackn]

Looks good to me bro! You should grow well from that if you eat like you need to.

 

[evgeny]

yeah. i wanna keep about 16lb after PCT. u think its possible?

 

[beefcake28]

Looks good to me, except I would use the Nolvadex only if signs of gyno appear... No need to use it everyday otherwise, in my opinion.

Make sure you eat enough and you will grow like a weed off of that cycle. I did something similar (used Deca as well as Test and D-bol) and I put on 45 pounds for my first cycle.. kept about 35 pounds of it once the bloating went away...

 

[krishna]

Looks good to me bro! You should grow well from that if you eat like you need to.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[evgeny]

Looks good to me, except I would use the Nolvadex only if signs of gyno appear... No need to use it everyday otherwise, in my opinion.

Make sure you eat enough and you will grow like a weed off of that cycle. I did something similar (used Deca as well as Test and D-bol) and I put on 45 pounds for my first cycle.. kept about 35 pounds of it once the bloating went away...

God damn thats awesome gains. The reason i wanna use nolva is to combat the bloat. I read that it also helps to keep the bloat down. I dont wanna bloat up so ppl can see that i am juicing.

 

[beefcake28]

God damn thats awesome gains. The reason i wanna use nolva is to combat the bloat. I read that it also helps to keep the bloat down. I dont wanna bloat up so ppl can see that i am juicing.

Nolva wont help the bloat all that much... I would suggest A-dex for that. You won't bloat at all while on that stuff, besides it is cheap and easily available from one of the sponsors here...

 

[silverbackn]

God damn thats awesome gains. The reason i wanna use nolva is to combat the bloat. I read that it also helps to keep the bloat down. I dont wanna bloat up so ppl can see that i am juicing.

Nolva does absolutely zero for bloat, you still have the same circulating estrogen levels. It is receptor specific, it will prevent gyno, and help keep your cholesterol levels more favorable, but it won't do anything for bloat. Use l-dex at .25mg ed.

 

[gottipit]

looks good - id up the dbol to 30mg/day though

 

[evgeny]

Can i use l-dex when i start seeing bloat? Or do i have to use it from day 1?

 

[beefcake28]

Can i use l-dex when i start seeing bloat? Or do i have to use it from day 1?

You will see bloat pretty quickly from the D-bol... I would start using it pretty early on in the cycle...

 

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I agree with the responses. I'd bump the dbol to 30mg and use .25mg of l-dex eod for your bloat. I'm glad you picked a simple yet effective cycle. Happy growing!

 

[chyllaxyn]

I was thinking of doing this for my second cycle.

1-4 20mg/ed dbol
1-10 500mg/ew test e

funny, I just ended my first cycle and past PCT a couple of months ago. (sust)
And that is Exactly what I have been looking at for round 2

good luck!!

 

[ElMatador]

very good cycle...but I would use HCG for PCT...

 

[kevin7]

I would definately hold the Nolva until PCT rolls around.

Go to ag-guys and get you some l-dex to do your research.

I would start the l-dex right out of the gate at .5 mg QOD.

Keep us updated.

kevin7

 

[ricorico]

id bump that dbol up to 25 or 30 mgs a day....20mgs a day didnt really do much for me...but on the other hand others have doen 20mgs will decent results...see what works for you, everyones diff....good luck!

 

[evgeny]

yeah i will thanks

 

[silverbackn]

Can i use l-dex when i start seeing bloat? Or do i have to use it from day 1?

You can, but then you will have fluctuations in bodyweight which will fuck with your psychology. It takes a little bit of time for the l-dex to accumulate in your body, probably around 10 days before any effect will be noticed. I would take it from day one if you are concerned about bloat. I am not a big fan of putting on unnecessary water weight, definitely not a healthy thing to do.