My planned cycle- what yall think

[kingcaesar1]

Week 1
200mg Sustanon 350
100mg Methenolone Enanthate
750mg Testosterone Enanthate
50mg Winstol (oral)

week 2
300mg Sust 350
200mg Meth En
750mg Test En
50mg Win

week 3
300mg Sust 350
300mg Meth En
500mg Test En
50mg Win

week 4
400mg Sust 350
300mg Meth En
500mg Test En
50mg Win

week 5
400mg Sust 350
300mg Meth En
250mg Test En
50mg Win

week 6
300mg Sust 350
200mg Meth En
250mg Test En
50mg Win

week 7
200mg Sust 350
100mg Meth En
250mg Test En
25mg Win

week 8
100mg Sust 350
100mg Meth En
25mg Win
100mg/day Clomid

week 9
1500iu (Mon+Thur) HCG
50mg/day Clomid

week 10
1500iu (Mon+Thur) HCG
50mg/day Clomid

week 11
50mg/day Clomid

 

[EZ_E]

Not loving the tapering down, and nearly a gram of test a week is A LOT of test

Please post your

Age
Wt
Ht
BF%
Training and cycle history
Diet

Welcome to EF

~EZ

 

[kingcaesar1]

thx for your response.

I am 42 yrs old.
170 lbs
BF% unknown. If I have to guess I am around 15-18%. Not fat.
training: I have trained since I was 24 yrs old. I have experience 4 cycles so far but this is my first time stacking them.
My first cycle was 8 week of test cyp. only. NO PCT
2nd was test cyp.only NO PCT
3rd was test en only. NO PCT Nipples hurt like a bitch. Couldnt even put on a light t-shirt cuss they were so sensitive.
That when I blew my right shoulder and stop lifting for 8yrs.
4th cycle was Winstrol only. Very painful but loved the results. NO PCT
I lost completely ALL my strength and notice bicth tits.
Recently started lifting again and lost 10lbs and the bitch tits are gone so this will be my first time stacking and doing PCT to keep the gains and strength.
NOTE: All cycles were pyramided except Win./

DIET- Currrently just eating less than 1000 calories til I cycle. Then I'll increase my caloric intake to 4000 calories/ 1000 protein intake

Do you have any suggestions? anything will help including criticism. BE BLUNT. I need the truth

 

[hydez27]

In my opinion stacking the sus with enanthate is overkill test is test


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[kingcaesar1]

Please explain. I already have Sust350 so i want it use it up instead of wasting it.

 

[EZ_E]

In my opinion stacking the sus with enanthate is overkill test is test


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Overkill an wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much test, if you're 170 pounds no need to run that much test per week...

2 questions; why no PCT?

Why are you eating 1,000 cals/day?

~EZ

 

[kingcaesar1]

HCG and Clomid will be my PCT. Only 1000 cause I am trying to lose about 5 more lbs.
Should I substitute Sus350 for Deca or omit Test En from the cycle or remove Test En and Meth En from the cycle and just keep the Sus350 and the Win ?
What do you guys recommend?

Please advise

 

[joeblow12345]

I dont like the pyramid/ roller coaster dosing. Pick 2-3 compuonds and eun the same dose all the way through with the exception of the oral use that as a kick start or a finisher. Start the hcg 2 weeks before the end of cycle and run it through first week pct. Start pct 2 weeks after last pin. Your pct needs some work as well.

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[bastiaan89]

I don't think these dosages are required at your fitness level and weight.
I don't know about receptor sensitivity considering your previous ran cycles but at this level usually high dosages will not increase gains and even a 400mg e/w test only, or perhaps with an oral kickstart ran well for 10 weeks would make for huge gains.
Good thing you've decided to run PCT this time.
You would likely not need the hcg for the cycle I mentioned (though having it around is never a bad idea).
If you want to frontload go for it but aside from that the variance in dosage I would get rid of.
Also I don't think eating 1000 cals a day is healthy ever.

 

[C0LUMB0]

not sure what your goals are here bro...and its kinda hard to read you cycle in that layout.
if you are cutting the just do a simple sustanon cycle for 10 weeks ..calorie deficit etc..

if you are bulking then run some deca too.

clomid makes me feel like shit...but you could use a low dose 25-50mg for 4 weeks along with , postcycle+unleased combo , forma stanzol and some phytosermd 347.
jump on sarms s4 after pct to help maintain and harden those gains.

 

[gwilym]

personally I would spend the 10 weeks lifting lighter with more reps and a lot less rest between sets with 20 minutes of intense cardio for 20
Minutes after to strip of as much poor weight (fat) as possible (I'm in week 8 of this myself) Trust me the better shape your in before you start the better the results will be!!!!

Then start the test cycle at
500-600mg a week for 12 weeks WITH A PROPER PCT & diet
If you review SteveMI profile he has two great threads about a solid pct & diet ( essential for a guy in his forties yep I'm almost there myself)

HCG I take on cycle from wk 4 @500ui pw (250ui twice )
1500ui 1 week after last pin
1000ui 2 weeks after last pin.
Clomid I suffered blurred vision (slight) but have got my hands on postcycle & unleashed for my next cycle..

This will not only give you a solid base to commence the cycle and IMO give better aesthetic results but will also give you adequate time to research ( particularly this forum) and learn from others mistakes & knowledge before jumping in at the deep end..

The best bit is if you get all this right including PCT then technically you can commence another cycle (with winny) approx 16 weeks later (time on = time off ) and your $$$$ should be no worse off

 

[EZ_E]

Great posts boys...

~EZ