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[myway]

...morning shake. As some of u may remember, I have been trying to eat more to improve my running and to gain some lean weight. My biggest problem time to get myself to eat is after I wake up or after I run. When I go running, I usually can't get myself to take in any cals for about 2 or more hours.Just feel like puking . I know this probably isn't the best but it's a start, and the only thing with decent cals and protein that won't make me hurl after a workout:
8oz of water
8oz skim milk
1scoop(half serving) of choc. muscle milk
1scoop of choc. Designer whey

I make it in the blender and drink it with ice. I'm figuring it to be about:
355 cals
42 protein
16 sugar(mostly from the skim milk)
remember, I only use 1/2 serving of muscle milk for extra protein and flavor.
I sip on it for about 2 hours after my run. I run between 3-5 miles. Before, I couldn't eat anything after my run so I figured if this isn't making my belly sick, it's a good start. Whatcha ladies think?

 

[jenscats5]

Technically, if you want to retain muscle and recover properly - you really need to begin drinking this within 30-60 minutes PWO......and I'd recommend adding some glutamine.....

Now if you have issues mentally with ingesting food that soon - try to trick yourself, etc in order to get it in you - it's a mental thing......You're not doing yourself much good waiting that long to eat pwo...

 

[treilin]

...morning shake. As some of u may remember, I have been trying to eat more to improve my running and to gain some lean weight. My biggest problem time to get myself to eat is after I wake up or after I run. When I go running, I usually can't get myself to take in any cals for about 2 or more hours.Just feel like puking . I know this probably isn't the best but it's a start, and the only thing with decent cals and protein that won't make me hurl after a workout:
8oz of water
8oz skim milk
1scoop(half serving) of choc. muscle milk
1scoop of choc. Designer whey

I make it in the blender and drink it with ice. I'm figuring it to be about:
355 cals
42 protein
16 sugar(mostly from the skim milk)
remember, I only use 1/2 serving of muscle milk for extra protein and flavor.
I sip on it for about 2 hours after my run. I run between 3-5 miles. Before, I couldn't eat anything after my run so I figured if this isn't making my belly sick, it's a good start. Whatcha ladies think?

I know the feeling I used to go through this too.... I used to not be able to even smell food before I would go out for a run. Then when I first started adding in like 1/2 a banana like 30 minutes prior I noticed my runs would be more sluggish. So I would get up an hour before I would run eat a bowl of oatmeal, drink one scoop protein in ice with glutamine, and 1/2 a banana. Then an hour to hour and a half later I would run. EVen if you get up to eat and go back to bed till you are ready to get up... It's better then not eating anything. Can't really put lean mass on when you are in a consistent cardio burning zone because you will start eating muscle off.
You have to just get over the fact of "I hurl if I eat before a.m. cardio" and just take steps to change it. It took me about 2 months to be able to eat within 1 hour before a run. Just realize it has to be done.. no if's and's or but's..Reprogram the brain...
And afterwards I know the feeling too.... Just drink it...

 

[myway]

Technically, if you want to retain muscle and recover properly - you really need to begin drinking this within 30-60 minutes PWO......and I'd recommend adding some glutamine.....

Now if you have issues mentally with ingesting food that soon - try to trick yourself, etc in order to get it in you - it's a mental thing......You're not doing yourself much good waiting that long to eat pwo...

Thanx, jens. I was wanting u to respond. I know u are good with the food thing. I don't think my problem is a mental thing(atleast not with food, anyway-lol). It seems like my stomache is REALLY sensitive. Any kind of physical stress(lifting, cardio, being tired, ect.) makes me feel like I will puke if I eat 2soon after. Sometimes, I can drink stuff. I know the importance of eating soon after a workout. The problem is I feel like I need to let my stomach calm down, first. I don't know why. I have always been like this. he glutamine sounds like a good idea.

 

[jenscats5]

Thanx, jens. I was wanting u to respond. I know u are good with the food thing. I don't think my problem is a mental thing(atleast not with food, anyway-lol). It seems like my stomache is REALLY sensitive. Any kind of physical stress(lifting, cardio, being tired, ect.) makes me feel like I will puke if I eat 2soon after. Sometimes, I can drink stuff. I know the importance of eating soon after a workout. The problem is I feel like I need to let my stomach calm down, first. I don't know why. I have always been like this. he glutamine sounds like a good idea.

Well if you want to put on some lean muscle - you've got to suck it up & figure out a way to trick your head into accepting the food - cuz by waiting so long it ain't gonna happen....

Your stomach could be sensitive cuz you *think* (ie believe) it's sensitive....

Aslo, if you need something beforehand - try 2-3 hard boiled egg whites.....

 

[myway]

I know the feeling I used to go through this too.... I used to not be able to even smell food before I would go out for a run. Then when I first started adding in like 1/2 a banana like 30 minutes prior I noticed my runs would be more sluggish. So I would get up an hour before I would run eat a bowl of oatmeal, drink one scoop protein in ice with glutamine, and 1/2 a banana. Then an hour to hour and a half later I would run. EVen if you get up to eat and go back to bed till you are ready to get up... It's better then not eating anything. Can't really put lean mass on when you are in a consistent cardio burning zone because you will start eating muscle off.
You have to just get over the fact of "I hurl if I eat before a.m. cardio" and just take steps to change it. It took me about 2 months to be able to eat within 1 hour before a run. Just realize it has to be done.. no if's and's or but's..Reprogram the brain...
And afterwards I know the feeling too.... Just drink it...

Yep . I'm just gonna hafta do it. I will be strong.

 

[myway]

Well if you want to put on some lean muscle - you've got to suck it up & figure out a way to trick your head into accepting the food - cuz by waiting so long it ain't gonna happen....

Your stomach could be sensitive cuz you *think* (ie believe) it's sensitive....

Aslo, if you need something beforehand - try 2-3 hard boiled egg whites.....

I know I totally waste my time working out if I don't eat right. I need to get over my wimpy, cranky gut. I'll do what I need to do in order to get where I need to be. Thanx for the help.

 

[jenscats5]

I know some have had good results with digestive enzymes....dunno if that would help you or not - if you have digestive/stomach issues, may want to try it & checking with your Dr. 1st.....

 

[myway]

I know some have had good results with digestive enzymes....dunno if that would help you or not - if you have digestive/stomach issues, may want to try it & checking with your Dr. 1st.....

I went to my doc for this kinda stuff when I was 24. He said he thought I might have an ulcer..... then he told me I couldn't have any more coffee .
I went back last year and he said to eat a lot of small meals because I have a fussy tummy. I think I need to just try to get stuff down even when I don't feel like it. I won't know until I try. I'll keep u peeps updated and thanx for the help.

 

[jenscats5]

Oh check this out:

http://www17.netrition.com/now_cinnamon_bark_page.html

 

[myway]

Oh check this out:

http://www17.netrition.com/now_cinnamon_bark_page.html

Great! I'm going to the store right now to get a glut. powder suggested. I will see if they also have the cin. bark. Thanx so much!
When I got up, I:
Ate 2 hard boiled eggs
waited 20 min.
Went running(about 4 miles)
Got home, immediately(pre-shower) drank one of my shakes.
I didn't puke but my tummy felt crappy. Probably because i'm doing something new. I will stick with it. Gonna have grilled chicken for lunch.
I will be at work for the next 24hours, starting at 6pm but will post the food I'm taking before I leave. Thanx so much, again.

 

[bigmann245]

Great! I'm going to the store right now to get a glut. powder suggested. I will see if they also have the cin. bark. Thanx so much!
When I got up, I:
Ate 2 hard boiled eggs
waited 20 min.
Went running(about 4 miles)
Got home, immediately(pre-shower) drank one of my shakes.
I didn't puke but my tummy felt crappy. Probably because i'm doing something new. I will stick with it. Gonna have grilled chicken for lunch.
I will be at work for the next 24hours, starting at 6pm but will post the food I'm taking before I leave. Thanx so much, again.

i have the same problem. i cant eat anything before or after my workouts. i get light headed and i puke. i hate it cause i want to have my protien shake right after i workout and not hours later. i even tried drinking something before my workout like speed stack or something and withing minutes of working out i feel im about to pass out and i end up in the bathroom puking all sorts of colors.

 

[myway]

OK, first off, I didn't get back to the computer to post my food before work. I suck.
I got home last night .... worked 30something hours....... but this is what I have been doing.
I have been getting in between 1500-1800 cals every 24hours. These cals have been from: Grilled chicken, skim milk, grilled fish, tuna, baby spinach, egg whites and whey pro. powder(designer whey choc or strawberry).
I know my cals may seem a little low but I have always had a problem getting above 1000 cals a day. I am trying to work my way up but am doing so kinda slowly.
I will start a log after I go part-time at work(Aug. 16th). I will still be working full-time hours but will be making my own schedule. It will help a TON! It kinda sux now because I am always at work for at least 24hours and don't always know when I will get home. Plus, it's hard to eat at good intervals because sometimes I can eat every couple of hours(BEST!) but sometimes I don't get a chance to even pee for 6 or 7 hours. It makes meal planning difficult. I am already doing much better because I am getting in more food. After I go part time, I can start a log and get the help I really need.

 

[*Bunny*]

You meal choices look good but 1K cal a day is horrible.

I am sorry you have issues with keeping food & eating ... have you tried addred MRp shakes or even bars .. CLIF bars are Organic have high carbs but also have high cals?

Maybe taking fish/flax oil caps?

Vary the veggies a little?

Can you eat Oatmeal or sweet potatoes?

Just throwing Ideas at you to get some food in that body of yours


best of luck

 

[myway]

Thanx, bunny!
A few times, I added a scoop of muscle milk(my fiancee buys it) in with my whey shake for some extra cals. I am getting between 1500-1800, now. I know I need more. I'm really working on it. Earlier this week(if u read above) I was afraid to eat around my workout times. I always felt like puking. Well, I have been having egg whites before my workouts and a shake after.... without puking. I'm doing better than I thought I would. My stomach always feels so shaky after my runs, I was always afraid to eat. Well, I have been doing fine. Sometimes, I feel a little sick if I eat or drink a shake right after my runs, but I have been able to keep it down. I will keep trying to eat more cals. I think the best way will be for me to fit in more small meals. I know small meals are usually the best, but sometimes it's hard with my job. Since I will be making my own work schedule starting the 16th, I predict my eating will get much better. I am really excited. Right now, I work 70-100 hours a week. The problem is: it's hard to plan time to eat with the job I do. When I go part time, I will probably still work a lot of hours but I will plan my work week around my eating and running schedule. I will try to work 9 or 12 hour shifts instead of 24s. I usually do weights at work.... so I'm not worried about that part. I will keep everyone updated and I really appreciate the help!

 

[*Bunny*]

Do you like Gatorade? It's great to mix with an unflavored Whey Protein powder for a meal.

 

[myway]

Do you like Gatorade? It's great to mix with an unflavored Whey Protein powder for a meal.

Thanx, bunny. I will check it out.

 

[wlmcrae]

Tummy thing sounds maybe like hypoglycemia? Timing is typical and so are some of the symptoms. If so, get Dextrosal or other diabetic 'quick, no digest' sugar supplement. Use it first, about 10 minutes before eating. It MUST BE a diabetic supplement that can hit the blood stream with NO digestion needed. WHY does this make a difference? Your body has to use its free glucose to begin the digestion process and if it has none available it will reject the food rather than try to digest and risk 'shorting' the central nervous system of glucose.

 

[The Shadow]

42 grams protein = 170 cals
16 sugar = 64 cals....


that leaves about 130 cals from fat...and since you are using skim milk...something seems a bit off......

unles you mean sugar = SUGAR and not any other carbs.

If thats the case ignore the following:


If there IS that level of fat in the shake - you might consider dropping it as it is the first meal of the day and the fat will S L O W the process of getting nutrients int he system.