My friend is going to commit suicide

[plifter]

It's going to happen. I've never seen a person so depressed. He's unemployed, 200 lbs overweight, and has herpes. It frustrates me because I've been trying to help him but he always comes up with a reason why my plan won't work. He wants to sit around and draw disability payments. He has a college degree and 5 years experience in his field. He should be able to get a job if he wants to. I've reached the point where I can't handle being around him. He brings me down with him. I'm lost on what to do for him. He talks about killing himself a lot. I'm afraid of saying the wrong thing and setting him off. When I say that he is going to kill himself, I'm dead serious. It's going to happen if he doesn't change his ways.

 

[Lestat]

tell him to get professional help ASAP.

 

[needtogetarmy]

Herpes sucks.

 

[AAP]

If he is going to do it, then he is going to do it no matter what. Don't let it weigh on your mind if he does because you have tried to help him. That is the most anyone can do.

 

[plifter]

tell him to get professional help ASAP.

He does see a psychiatrist who prescribes meds. However, his problems are beyond meds alone. He's seeing a psychology student (it's free). I'm trying to get him to go to a psychologist that I know who is very good but he charges $120/ hour and my friend won't pay it. He has enough money in his savings to pay for treatment but he's a tight wad and won't spend it. I've tried explaining that his health is more important right now than any amount of money but he just won't seek out GOOD health care.

 

[Smurfy]

It's going to happen. I've never seen a person so depressed. He's unemployed, 200 lbs overweight, and has herpes. It frustrates me because I've been trying to help him but he always comes up with a reason why my plan won't work. He wants to sit around and draw disability payments. He has a college degree and 5 years experience in his field. He should be able to get a job if he wants to. I've reached the point where I can't handle being around him. He brings me down with him. I'm lost on what to do for him. He talks about killing himself a lot. I'm afraid of saying the wrong thing and setting him off. When I say that he is going to kill himself, I'm dead serious. It's going to happen if he doesn't change his ways.

call 911 if he is serious or take him to the ER if his life is at risk

 

[Arabian]

If you take him to the ER and he makes a statement concerning killing himself , they will have him committed and they will observe him and if they feel it necessary will have him committed to a state run institution..

 

[plifter]

call 911 if he is serious or take him to the ER if his life is at risk

I think if he were going to do it he wouldn't let anyone know when he was going to do it. Nobody can watch over him 24/7. I'm an atheist but I honestly wish my friend would "find Jesus" or whatever it is that born again Christians do. Christians claim to feel Jesus' love. While I personally think it's delusional, I would be happy if it gave my friend a new found purpose in life. I never thought I'd say anything good about religion, but I just did.

 

[plifter]

If you take him to the ER and he makes a statement concerning killing himself , they will have him committed and they will observe him and if they feel it necessary will have him committed to a state run institution..

He's the type of person that would rebel against that. I've thought of doing some type of intervention with his mom and stepfather. He needs quality health care and I don't think a state run institution could provide the care he needs.

 

[Smurfy]

the other thing for you to keep in mind is you can provide him support/etc but you are in no way responsible if he takes drastic measures. you do not have control over his actions. if someone is hell bent on killing themselves, they will do it.

 

[plifter]

the other thing for you to keep in mind is you can provide him support/etc but you are in no way responsible if he takes drastic measures. you do not have control over his actions. if someone is hell bent on killing themselves, they will do it.

I understand that I might not be able to prevent him from killing himself. It's just painful for me to watch a friend of 23 years self destruct.

 

[jack sparrow]

People who talk about killing themselves are looking for attention. Write him off and go about your business. This dude isn't doing anything but playing you for a fool.

It's like the "I'm leaving EF" threads.

A crude example, but one you can relate to I'm sure.

 

[Smurfy]

People who talk about killing themselves are looking for attention. Write him off and go about your business. This dude isn't doing anything but playing you for a fool.

It's like the "I'm leaving EF" threads.

A crude example, but one you can relate to I'm sure.

Have you ever known anyone who killed themselves? I have.

 

[jack sparrow]

Have you ever known anyone who killed themselves? I have.

Yep. I cleaned up the room. Ripped up the carpet and replaced the blood soaked sub floor. After that me and my best friend hurled the mattresses into some dumpster behind Kroger. I had to wait for him to finish puking before we could leave.


Dude in question never said a word. Smiled all the time.

 

[rnch]

suicide is painless, it brings on many changes.

 

[BIGBUCK$]

u cant help some1 that doesnt want help.
seen it before.

 

[Razorguns]

It's going to happen. I've never seen a person so depressed. He's unemployed, 200 lbs overweight, and has herpes. It frustrates me because I've been trying to help him but he always comes up with a reason why my plan won't work. He wants to sit around and draw disability payments. He has a college degree and 5 years experience in his field. He should be able to get a job if he wants to. I've reached the point where I can't handle being around him. He brings me down with him. I'm lost on what to do for him. He talks about killing himself a lot. I'm afraid of saying the wrong thing and setting him off. When I say that he is going to kill himself, I'm dead serious. It's going to happen if he doesn't change his ways.

tell him the meaning of life is ... happiness. that's it. that's everyone's goal when they wake up each morning. sadly, must do nothing to achieve it tho.

find out what makes him happy - then go do it. who cares about his challenges. there's always people out there in worst shape.

if he doesn't know what makes him happy - get in a car, get some cash, go drive across country and figure that shit out.

focus the mind on the positive and a funny thing happens --- your life starts becoming positive.

r

 

[plifter]

People who talk about killing themselves are looking for attention. Write him off and go about your business. This dude isn't doing anything but playing you for a fool.

It's like the "I'm leaving EF" threads.

A crude example, but one you can relate to I'm sure.

I've thought about trying the "tough love" approach to get him off his ass and start living again. However, I'm not a trained psychologist and I worry about setting him off.

 

[jack sparrow]

I've thought about trying the "tough love" approach to get him off his ass and start living again. However, I'm not a trained psychologist and I worry about setting him off.

I'm not a trained psysaKEEatrist either, but I know enough to let people wallow in their own misery if they beg for support, yet refuse it when given.

I know he's your bro and all, but too bad for him. He needs to fly straight or crash. It's up to him, not you.

 

[silverstar1025]

Yep. I cleaned up the room. Ripped up the carpet and replaced the blood soaked sub floor. After that me and my best friend hurled the mattresses into some dumpster behind Kroger. I had to wait for him to finish puking before we could leave.


Dude in question never said a word. Smiled all the time.

Damn!

 

[jack sparrow]

Damn!

Yeah, and the fuckbag had some queer country song playing over and over in the CD player when my friend (his girlfriend) found him.

If I'd have known he was gonna hurt her like that, I'd have killed him myself.

No joke.

 

[Mysterio]

Your friend needs help right away.

 

[silverstar1025]

Yeah, and the fuckbag had some queer country song playing over and over in the CD player when my friend (his girlfriend) found him.

If I'd have known he was gonna hurt her like that, I'd have killed him myself.

No joke.

Crazy man! I think suicide is such a selfish act. They don't think about others and they are weak ass shit!

I am still shocked that you cleaned up the mess. Did he use a gun or what?

 

[jack sparrow]

Crazy man! I think suicide is such a selfish act. They don't think about others and they are weak ass shit!

I am still shocked that you cleaned up the mess. Did he use a gun or what?

.22 to the temple. The story is a graphic one, but those are the highlights.

A true chicken shit in every sense of the term.

 

[silverstar1025]

.22 to the temple. The story is a graphic one, but those are the highlights.

A true chicken shit in every sense of the term.

Damn I could only imagine. I would puke too.

 

[blueta2]

Crazy man! I think suicide is such a selfish act. They don't think about others and they are weak ass shit!

I am still shocked that you cleaned up the mess. Did he use a gun or what?

I think it takes a lot of strength to take your own life. Nothing weak about it.
If you hate a movie, you leave the theatre. If you don't like what you're eating, you stop. If you dislike a person, you walk away.
If you hate life, you have every right to get up and leave.
Death always hurts the living, but it's not about them when the suffering gets unbearable.

I think it takes a lot of courage to end your own life.

 

[wootoom]

i know a guy who used a nailgun an it didnt work i swear to god. the second time he hung himself and it did the trick

 

[Smurfy]

Crazy man! I think suicide is such a selfish act. They don't think about others and they are weak ass shit!

I am still shocked that you cleaned up the mess. Did he use a gun or what?

hey look captain obvious, of course suicide is a selfish act. anyone in that frame of mind is thinking of one thing and one thing only : their own misery and how they can put an end to it. ive never been suicidal so Id never refer to someone in that predicament as being "weak ass shit" whatever that means. in fact, that's a pretty ignorant thing to say.

 

[blueta2]

hey look captain obvious, of course suicide is a selfish act. anyone in that frame of mind is thinking of one thing and one thing only : their own misery and how they can put an end to it. ive never been suicidal so Id never refer to someone in that predicament as being "weak ass shit" whatever that means. in fact, that's a pretty ignorant thing to say.

<tug>
Get the cake.......please someone, anyone, get the cake...NOWWWWWW!


But I agree. Weak is not the right word

 

[jack sparrow]

I think it takes a lot of strength to take your own life. Nothing weak about it.
If you hate a movie, you leave the theatre. If you don't like what you're eating, you stop. If you dislike a person, you walk away.
If you hate life, you have every right to get up and leave.
Death always hurts the living, but it's not about them when the suffering gets unbearable.

I think it takes a lot of courage to end your own life.

Blue, I disagree. It takes a complete pussy/douchebag/sissymotherfucker/chickenshit bitch to end their own life.

 

[silverstar1025]

hey look captain obvious, of course suicide is a selfish act. anyone in that frame of mind is thinking of one thing and one thing only : their own misery and how they can put an end to it. ive never been suicidal so Id never refer to someone in that predicament as being "weak ass shit" whatever that means. in fact, that's a pretty ignorant thing to say.

I may get flamed, but you sure can be a bitch to people. Damn!

 

[Smurfy]

I may get flamed, but you sure can be a bitch to people. Damn!

why would you say that? I didnt even call you any mean names. You're the meanie calling me a bitch. bitch.

 

[PICK3]

why would you say that? I didnt even call you any mean names. You're the meanie calling me a bitch. bitch.

 

[jack sparrow]

 

[blueta2]

Blue, I disagree. It takes a complete pussy/douchebag/sissymotherfucker/chickenshit bitch to end their own life.

You would have to be at the depths of despair to think otherwise.
It's like the 9/11 victims. Burn or drop from the building. No choice.
This is how depressed people feel. There is nothing pussy about it.

 

[silverstar1025]

why would you say that? I didnt even call you any mean names. You're the meanie calling me a bitch. bitch.

It's just an observation you come off bitchy. You have been rude to me more than once or I guess you just have a hard attitude. I am not mean at all.

 

[PICK3]

Blue, I disagree. It takes a complete pussy/douchebag/sissymotherfucker/chickenshit bitch to end their own life.

disagree

that's why I'm moving to Oregon when I get old and feeble.

 

[Smurfy]

It's just an observation you come off bitchy. You have been rude to me more than once or I guess you just have a hard attitude. I am not mean at all.

no i just disagreed with what you said and used a little sarcastic wit to lessen the blow. if i were a dude (i'm not?), then you would be batting your e-lashes at me and teeheeheeing all the way to the market.

 

[jack sparrow]

You would have to be at the depths of despair to think otherwise.
It's like the 9/11 victims. Burn or drop from the building. No choice.
This is how depressed people feel. There is nothing pussy about it.

My argument lies in the lack of logic or reason. People with no sense of logic or reason cannot function. Period. Having said that, I would assume said suicide candidate is a functioning member of society. I see no reason why a person who is in the depths of despair can't pull themselves up by the bootstraps and seek professional help. These people know when something is wrong, yet they chose to feel sorry for themselves rather than take steps to make things better.

No excuse for that behavior.

None.

You will never get a corn flake of sympathy out of me.

 

[silverstar1025]

no i just disagreed with what you said and used a little sarcastic wit to lessen the blow. if i were a dude (i'm not?), then you would be batting your e-lashes at me and teeheeheeing all the way to the market.

Yeah ok You do more than put out sarcastic wit, but whatever.

 

[Raptorex]

don't mind Smuffy; just say "rolling skating wheels" and she leaves the thread.

 

[Raptorex]

If you take him to the ER and he makes a statement concerning killing himself , they will have him committed and they will observe him and if they feel it necessary will have him committed to a state run institution..

+1

 

[blueta2]

My argument lies in the lack of logic or reason. People with no sense of logic or reason cannot function. Period. Having said that, I would assume said suicide candidate is a functioning member of society. I see no reason why a person who is in the depths of despair can't pull themselves up by the bootstraps and seek professional help. These people know when something is wrong, yet they chose to feel sorry for themselves rather than take steps to make things better.

No excuse for that behavior.

None.

You will never get a corn flake of sympathy out of me.

I don't think it's a matter of feeling sorry for oneself though I am sure some people who end it feel that way.
Some people value life, some don't. Those who don't can make any choice they want. People who abuse themselves with drugs and or booze are commiting slow death as well.
It's not sympathy, but empathy you need. For some, life is very hard

 

[Mr. dB]

If he's got bucks, make sure you're remembered in his will.

 

[jack sparrow]

I won't hear of quitting when faced with adversity, so how am I supposed to be empathetic?

 

[Mr. dB]

My argument lies in the lack of logic or reason. People with no sense of logic or reason cannot function. Period.

How do women survive then?

 

[wootoom]

alot of hate in here

 

[blueta2]

I won't hear of quitting when faced with adversity, so how am I supposed to be empathetic?

Being empathetic doesn't mean you have to agree but you have to try to understand.
I don't sympathize with obese people, but I empathize b/c I cannot understand their pain.

D, pain can sometimes be too intense. If someone has ALS and they die from assistant suicide, their pain is no different from someone who has horrible mental pain.
Sometimes there is no cure.

 

[jack sparrow]

How do women survive then?

I stand corrected.

I completely forgot about looks...

 

[Smurfy]

Yeah ok You do more than put out sarcastic wit, but whatever.

are you hurt because i suggested you were ignorant? is that where the bad feelings are coming from?

 

[Raptorex]

opcorn: double batch!

 

[jack sparrow]

Being empathetic doesn't mean you have to agree but you have to try to understand.
I don't sympathize with obese people, but I empathize b/c I cannot understand their pain.

D, pain can sometimes be too intense. If someone has ALS and they die from assistant suicide, their pain is no different from someone who has horrible mental pain.
Sometimes there is no cure.

When all is won and lost, the spoils of war are yours to keep.

i.e. justify suicide however you may, but it's a cop out. An example of a quitter at the top of his game...you will never convince me otherwise.

 

[blueta2]

When all is won and lost, the spoils of war are yours to keep.

i.e. justify suicide however you may, but it's a cop out. An example of a quitter at the top of his game...you will never convince me otherwise.

even if I posted my boobs?

 

[jack sparrow]

even if I posted my boobs?

Not even a nice pair of boobz trump my beliefs. But feel free to post them up anyway