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My first Tren cycle.

musclei

musclei

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I hadn't planned to start with Tren just yet but my source has a special on this blend and I couldn't let it pass so I'm planning a cutter for this Summer that will go like this:

Week 1-8: 50mg Test-p + 50mg Tren-a + 50mg Mast ED

That's 350mg of each compound per week.

The thing is that it's going to be my first time using Tren and you never know with all the horror stories you hear... I have myself for quite a leveled guy but not insensible to the effect of hormones, you know.

So I thought it would be better to ask. What do you guys think about a cycle like this for a tren first-timer (this will be my 5th cycle in total, I think- been on it for 3 years). How was your first experience with Tren? Any advice?
 
Looks like a goodd first go around. Short and dosed ok, ED injections I have always found less sides as bloods are constant and stable. What's the rest of your cycle look like? Supports, PCT, etc.
 
Gorilla-Pharma said:
Looks like a goodd first go around. Short and dosed ok, ED injections I have always found less sides as bloods are constant and stable. What's the rest of your cycle look like? Supports, PCT, etc.
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I won't be doing PCT since I'm on blast and cruise. Ancilliaries will be Aromasin at 12,5mg EOD and Caber at 0,5mg EOD.
 
Gorilla-Pharma said:
How long have you been running? And you obviously don't plan on ever trying to come off?
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No, I'm never coming of. I'm 31 and made that decision after just two cycles. I'm sure some will thin that was premature but it's the best decision I've made in my life. Having your hormones in control is priceless.
 
Gorilla-Pharma said:
Yes, I'm 31 as well and at that same crossroad. Still shut down after 6 months out and 2 pv t runs....
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Have some sperm frozen if you don't have any children, get on it and don't look back. That's my advice at least, I know many would recommend otherwise.
 
I don't have to worry there I have 2 and 1 on the way....cost me a small fortune to have as my sperm count was crazy low. Did frozen ivf egg transfer.
 
Gorilla-Pharma said:
I don't have to worry there I have 2 and 1 on the way....cost me a small fortune to have as my sperm count was crazy low. Did frozen ivf egg transfer.
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Listen, I shouldn't have outright recommended it like before. It's just that I see such reluctancy to it when, in fact, once you factor out the reproductive issues there's zero cons to it.
 
musclei said:
Listen, I shouldn't have outright recommended it like before. It's just that I see such reluctancy to it when, in fact, once you factor out the reproductive issues there's zero cons to it.
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the con is you have to inject yourself forever.

you are throwing away your own bodies ability to produce male hormones to no charge to you and without the use of needles.
 
Tren is a brilliant AAS, your cycle looks good I like the dosages...
I'm also on blast and cruise, I'm 28 and have accepted I will need to pin for the rest of my life, however my quality of life has improved dramatically as a result of this decision, and AAS are the only aspect of my life that have any negative impact on my health, my diet is always tight, I dont drink apart from special occassions and even then only a couple, no smoking or hard rec drugs, I have a boy and another baby on the way.... Life is good :biggrin:
 
Tren is on another level. Ull love the muscle gains and transformation. Thats a good starting dose. I prefer tren e and pinning 3 x a week less side effects. 600mg. Tren Works so fast its just awesome.

Most common sides are night sweats, pretty much everybody gets the sweats they can become a pain in the arse.. but when u look in the mirror first thing in the morning u wont care. Insomnia, back pumps and lethargy have also been a problem for me in the past, but this run seems ok, so far..

Good luck
 
MattJS said:
Tren is a brilliant AAS, your cycle looks good I like the dosages...
I'm also on blast and cruise, I'm 28 and have accepted I will need to pin for the rest of my life, however my quality of life has improved dramatically as a result of this decision, and AAS are the only aspect of my life that have any negative impact on my health, my diet is always tight, I dont drink apart from special occassions and even then only a couple, no smoking or hard rec drugs, I have a boy and another baby on the way.... Life is good :biggrin:
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as a male you produce male hormones on your own. you are telling me you didn't have a good quality of life using your own hormones ? you should of easily been able to build ample muscle with that throughout your 20's.
 
I went to my original doctor who I worked with in past as he is a specialist in these areas. My levels at 25 were 377...so still on the low end. Now I had 2 bloods done 7 weeks apart. 48 on the first and 10 on second both in morning before 10am..
 
Stevesmi, muscle gains were not the only factor in that decision, I'm sure I could have continued making good gains naturally, I chose not to, I agree for the majority of gym rats its not the ideal solution and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who doesn't make their living from this...
 
MattJS said:
Stevesmi, muscle gains were not the only factor in that decision, I'm sure I could have continued making good gains naturally, I chose not to, I agree for the majority of gym rats its not the ideal solution and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who doesn't make their living from this...
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i just hate to see guys stay on because as gorilla has said its very hard to change your mind later on... as long as you thought about it long and hard.

shit can happen later on in life where you might not be able to workout anymore.. injuries, work, family, having to travel, etc. so having to continue pinning during that time could make you regret that decision.

i've dealt with dozens of guys who went on and now changed their minds as they are older.. its a very tough road to recovery if you change your mind after staying on.
 
stevesmi said:
get in more carbs people. your lethargy and sweating at night is the result of low blood sugar.

you must get in more carbs throughout the day on tren
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^^^this. Night sweats is the only real side I've experienced that I really couldn't handle. I hated waking up sweaty. I upped my dosage and carbs and now sleep like a baby and wake up dry. This time around on tren e I had night sweats only twice. I'm coming into week 6. This is my 5th run with tren e and 4th brand. I've never ran ace. I get some back pumps but never experienced lethargy on tren.


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when you get up in the middle night to take a piss (which everyone should be doing on tren because you need to be drinking 2X your normal water) either drink some apple juice or take 3 glucose pills.. that will help bounce your blood sugar.

during the night or after exercise is the WORST time for tren sides because your blood sugar drops as it is. so you need to be eating up those carbs/cals. now a lot of guys like to fuck with their bodies and not eat on tren because they want to shred up.. hey to each his own, however the long term consequences of not getting enough sleep can catch up to you
 
stevesmi said:
when you get up in the middle night to take a piss (which everyone should be doing on tren because you need to be drinking 2X your normal water) either drink some apple juice or take 3 glucose pills.. that will help bounce your blood sugar.

during the night or after exercise is the WORST time for tren sides because your blood sugar drops as it is. so you need to be eating up those carbs/cals. now a lot of guys like to fuck with their bodies and not eat on tren because they want to shred up.. hey to each his own, however the long term consequences of not getting enough sleep can catch up to you
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I found out the hard way about the water. The first run I did I drank my normal 1 gal but was getting extreme cramps throughout my body. I increased my potassium, changed up my diet, stretched more often and nothing helped until I upped my h2o to about 2 gal. Stretching actually made the cramps worse. It was like a rubber band affect. Most guys don't take their blood sugar into consideration on any cycle. But like you said, you really need to pay attention to it on tren.


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Thanks to all of you for your input guys; I'll keep an eye on my water and carbs intake and try to have some on my night stand.
None of you guys have made a mention about the psychological sides on tren. How bad where they on your first cycle? Or are most of them just horror stories?

Regarding the discussion on blast and cruise for life: I don't want to let it kidnap this thread, just say that testosterone injections, far from being a drawback, are what's going to let you have your hormones under control even at an old age. People pay big bucks to have them prescribed by a doctor, why wouldn't you be wiser and prescribe them to yourself?
 
I made my own tren my first two times and my night sweats were crazy.
This cycle I added test p 250mg a week and I ordered my tren a on line.
I don't have any sides and I wasn't sure if my tren was any good the only thing is I see it in the gym.
My first set of decline went from a hard 360 8x to an easy 380 8x. That was in less than 2 weeks.
 
Last cycle my goal was 400 8x. On my decline press. I didn't make it. This time I should hit that next week.
Steve, is tren made from fina tabs any dif than from powder?
 
musclei said:
Thanks to all of you for your input guys; I'll keep an eye on my water and carbs intake and try to have some on my night stand.
None of you guys have made a mention about the psychological sides on tren. How bad where they on your first cycle? Or are most of them just horror stories?
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For me it has never messed with me psychologically. All 5 times I've ran tren the sides where minimal except for the cramping when I wasn't drinking enough water. Tren won't effect everyone like what you've been hearing. Some guys can't handle it and some have no issues. I'm one that has little to no issues. It does raise my aggression like a mofo but you just have to keep that in check. I've heard of guys losing or almost losing their jobs, getting divorced or almost and all kinds of crazy shit. I can't speak of that as I don't get paranoia or depression or whatever they say happens. My way of thought never changes. Don't sike yourself out about it to much and just make sure you're taking the right supps and keep your diet in check.

For me, diet is the most important thing I do for my body. For me it's more important than working out or taking any supplement. I always adjust my diets accordingly. Like when on sd I carb load to beat lethargy or when on tren I try to snack on carbs here and there throughout the day and before bed. And especially after a workout. Fruit is your friend on this kind of a cycle. Like Steve had mentioned though glucos tabs are a great thing to have. You might not need them but it would suck not to have them if you let your blood sugar drop to low and not have them. I have yet to use them but they're with me everywhere I go when on cycle.




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I have had no psychological problems either and have ran tren many times. I would like to think the ones that have problems with that truly have problems to begin with.
 
Gorilla-Pharma said:
I have had no psychological problems either and have ran tren many times. I would like to think the ones that have problems with that truly have problems to begin with.
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Lol. That was my thought too but wasn't going to say it. I've heard people say the stress in life goes through the roof while on tren but nothing changes for me. I think they were stress cases to begin with and now have an outlet to blame.


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GradeABeef said:
Last cycle my goal was 400 8x. On my decline press. I didn't make it. This time I should hit that next week.
Steve, is tren made from fina tabs any dif than from powder?
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if you want strength stack 60mg or so var per day with your tren... that is the best stack i have ever run for pure strength.

your 2nd question i have no clue man. too many variables to answer that.
 
To hell with tren can't eat can't sleep fell like dog shit and almost died from my injection today I promised Jesus if he would help me breathe and not die I would never touch it again I'm taking all my on cycle supps tren is just not for me thankful I started with ace
 
stevesmi said:
if you want strength stack 60mg or so var per day with your tren... that is the best stack i have ever run for pure strength.

your 2nd question i have no clue man. too many variables to answer that.
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Thanks Steve. I don't take it for just strength but I sure love it for that.
I love the cuts too.
 
Head 35 said:
To hell with tren can't eat can't sleep fell like dog shit and almost died from my injection today I promised Jesus if he would help me breathe and not die I would never touch it again I'm taking all my on cycle supps tren is just not for me thankful I started with ace
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Sorry to hear that, bro.
Tren has an immediate and constricting effect on your lungs which is what causes tren cough and that episode you're describing not being able to breathe. Maybe you injected into a vein (at least partially) and that made it act faster than usual. Doesn't mean it's going to happen again, I guess.
 
Yeah man I'm going into my 4th week and each injection is getting worse its all I can do to workout I'm strong as hell just don't have the energy or air to really push myself I guess it affects people different I'm just going to stick with my winne good luck on your run Bro
 
I've never had tren cough. I've gotten the cough from tne but never tren. Maybe it's because I've always only ran tren e and not tren a. I've heard of people getting it with e but I'm fortunate I guess


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Well if you were hesitant about taking tren why not just sit on your supply and wait when the time is better? Since gear lasts years if stored properly. Thats what I do
 
-SD- said:
Well if you were hesitant about taking tren why not just sit on your supply and wait when the time is better? Since gear lasts years if stored properly. Thats what I do
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Well, of course that's an option. In fact, I didn't intend to try Tren until next year and I'm only doing it because I got a deal. But... now that I have it why hot give it a go? I want still want to have all the information available and your advice, guys, of course :D.
 
musclei said:
Well, of course that's an option. In fact, I didn't intend to try Tren until next year and I'm only doing it because I got a deal. But... now that I have it why hot give it a go? I want still want to have all the information available and your advice, guys, of course :D.
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I dont know, tren seems like its the steroid of "last resort". So why not wait until youve tried other lesser drugs and combo stacks?
I wouldnt take tren if i had any less than 5 or 6 cycles under my belt already. Once youve tried tren I dont know if going back to lesser drugs would be as effective as if you hadnt yet tried tren.
 
-SD- said:
I dont know, tren seems like its the steroid of "last resort". So why not wait until youve tried other lesser drugs and combo stacks?
I wouldnt take tren if i had any less than 5 or 6 cycles under my belt already. Once youve tried tren I dont know if going back to lesser drugs would be as effective as if you hadnt yet tried tren.
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I'd have to kinda agree with that. After I tried tren for the first time I never wanted to run a cycle without. The aggression, strength, vascularity, mass, helping in dropping bf it gives you, nothing else seems to compare. Though test will always be king in my book tren became the crown or finishing touch.


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Well, I certainly hope I don't lose a taste for all other steroids because I've committed myself to not doing more than one Tren cycle a year. This is something I've been wondering for a while as well: how does other users relations with other steroids change after they've tried Tren. Discuss!
 
I still love eq, mast p, mast e, and of course all test. Tren just became my favorite next to test. My last cycle before this tren cycle was test e, MDExtreme, and proviron. The MDExtreme was in the first 4 weeks so basically it was a test only cycle with proviron. It won't make you not like anything else but I just prefer it because of the affects. I plan on running a test mast eq cycle towards the end of the summer.


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I started on tren. I made my own from fina pellets. The cycle I am on right now I added test p for the first time. I am doing 50mg or tren a and about 35mg of test p a day.
I am loving it.
 
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