My First Time

[footballstud]

Hello all, I'm new here. a little info about myself. I'm 22, play college football and have been working out for 6 years now. I am 6'2, 250 lbs, bench 400, squat 550, hang clean 280.
I need some help. I just got some juice. this is my first cycle, and need some more guidance. My goal is to cut down a few lbs of fat, while I keep gaining muscle mass. My cycle plan is

12 weeks
Test Enanthate- 125mg twice weekly
EQ- 100mg twice weekly
Nolvadex- how should i use this? Towards the end, or every week?

Was gonna use test prop but test enan. was cheaper and close to the same results. I know its probably not enough test, but I am strapped for cash and was told by many 250mg's of test a week is plenty.

 

[escher]

Hello all, I'm new here. a little info about myself. I'm 22, play college football and have been working out for 6 years now. I am 6'2, 250 lbs, bench 400, squat 550, hang clean 280.
I need some help. I just got some juice. this is my first cycle, and need some more guidance. My goal is to cut down a few lbs of fat, while I keep gaining muscle mass. My cycle plan is

12 weeks
Test Enanthate- 125mg twice weekly
EQ- 100mg twice weekly
Nolvadex- how should i use this? Towards the end, or every week?

Was gonna use test prop but test enan. was cheaper and close to the same results. I know its probably not enough test, but I am strapped for cash and was told by many 250mg's of test a week is plenty.

500mg of test/wk would be perfect for a guy your size. 250 for a first cycle will do if you're in a pinch.

You'll probably need double the EQ dosage you're planning. 400-600/wk is what works best for most of the bros on this board (just read around or do a search on it). Consider 400 a minimum.

Nolvadex? @250/wk of test, keep some nolva on hand, but the test dose is so low you shouldn't need it unless you are really sensitive. If you DID need it, run it @20mg/day throughtout the test cycle.

Someone's going to flame you for not mentioning PCT. Run Clomid @ 50-100mg/day for 21 days, starting two weeks after your last shot of test. No need for nolva with clomid as clomid is also an estrogen-blocker, especially in such a mild cycle like this one. Take your clomid before bed to minimize moodswings. PM me if you still have ???s First-cycle is always a threshold.

-e

 

[footballstud]

I will try to double the dosages. Any legit sources for clomids? PM me if you do. I have been wanderin through and am enjoyin this board. Lots of knowledge and cool shit!

 

[Boston Strangler]

Ya i would go test 500/wk, and eq 400....don't ask for sources in open posts

 

[nydj66]

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[hard life]

in my opinion you don't need to double your doses, remember this is your first cycle and your receptors are really...well i guess you could say very receptive! I grew like a frickin weed off 250mg of sus. I don't think size has much of factor with how much to dose, sure your a big dude but your not absolutely enormous. The amount of juice to use depends on your history, the more juice you have used in the past the more you will probably need in the future. Why start off with lot's if you will grow off of a little? I will be very surprised if you don't grow off of 250mg of test and 400mg of EQ. unless your diet and training is shitty.

 

[Apexx]

you will you grow off of 250mg's of test and 200mg's of eq, but I wouldn't expect huge gains from this cycle. If you are looking at is as a cutter I think you will be very satisfied.

 

[footballstud]

I'll most likely doublie it up after awhile than. Gotta get spring break trip paid for first, then the juice. Thanks for the help.
I'll be wanting to bulk up around 30 lbs before the season, and be done with the cycle around late summer. I was thinkin sust 250, and deca. Dosages, ideas???
Thanks bros

 

[WolfPack Charlie]

For your first cycle, you might want to either start it with a fast acting oral, or switch your test to either Prop or Sus. Personally I prefer the Prop or Sus in addition to some dbol. But as mentioned, I would try to bump the dosages up. Dosages for EQ and Deca run pretty similar. But since it will be your 2nd cycle you will probably want to bump the dosages higher than your 1st. 500-750mg Sus a week broken into 2 shots and the same for the Deca. That may seem a little high, but for a 2nd cycle and being your size already it should fit you pretty good. That being said, you can pretty much guarantee that you will not gain 30 pounds from any 2nd cycle.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

I'll most likely doublie it up after awhile than. Gotta get spring break trip paid for first, then the juice. Thanks for the help.
I'll be wanting to bulk up around 30 lbs before the season, and be done with the cycle around late summer. I was thinkin sust 250, and deca. Dosages, ideas???
Thanks bros

U say ur a football player. Do you get tested? Deca is NOT ur friend if this is the case.

 

[footballstud]

U say ur a football player. Do you get tested? Deca is NOT ur friend if this is the case.

No testing, the school wont pay for it. Really surprised more of the guys on my team don't do it.

This will be my last year and i have my eyes on all-american. I think an assload of training and 2 cycles would REALLY help in my case

 

[dacdac]

Thats rediculous if you use test and EQ at any dose and don't use an anti estrogen. Screw that advice that the dose you will use is too low to cause problems. I don't know where that kind of advice comes from. Its plenty! You want to get big and strong, not express your feminine side. Also it will make PCT easier. USe adex. If you don't you will almost certaintly have girly, maybea even womanly levels of estrogen floating around.

 

[footballstud]

PCT mean "post cycle _________"?

 

[RADAR]

PCT mean "post cycle _________"?

Post cycle therapy


And i rarely use A -Dex because i have no problems running test ,it wouldn't hurt to have it or nova on hand in case problems arrises.


RADAR