my first stack deca and test propionate..advice plzzzzz

[like2stack]

age :26
weight : 190 pounds
body fat 8%
workin out :4 years
i want to run my first roid cycle for bulking and i have been advice to run the following :
weeks 1 - 10 500 mg deca
weeks 1 to 12 500 mg test propionate
i want to know would i lose my gains after ending this cycle?
how much gain i should to expect ? i am doing a good diet ...
and do i have to take anti estrogen during the cycle or just on the PCT period ?
i would be very glad to receive ur advices

 

[shibs]

if this is your first cycle you should only do test. it's always good to have an AI standing by in case you get some bad symptoms such as gyno. you should be able to retain most your gains considering you have a good pct.

 

[RADAR]

I agree , if you have problems you won't know know which one is causing it!

 

[stevesmi]

there is several things wrong with this cycle.. severely wrong. this is where lack of experience betrays you.

first off running prop for 12 weeks and deca for 10 is the standard cycle. however prop leaves the body quickly and deca takes 5 weeks. since there is a 2 week spread we are talking almost 3 weeks of deca alone in the body with no test. that is a recipe for disaster. the 10/12 deca/test protocol is for long esters cause they take 3 weeks to leave the body. not for prop!

secondly at your size you do not need 500mg/week deca. that is a ridiculous over dosage. 300 for a first cycle will suffice.

thirdly you say you are running a good diet. what exactly is a 'good diet' when it comes to deca exactly? deca needs lots of calories and carbs to work. you will gain fat and a lot of mass.. is that what you are looking for? 8% bf will go to 13%... if you want mass and strength go with deca.. if you want to stay 8% then its not the right choice.

as for AI that is gonna depend on how much water weight you are willing to deal with. if you start getting the moon face then you can run a very small dose AI and then stop it. but totally killing your estrogen is gonna ruin your cycle.

and lastly you might want to consider reducing deca to 8 weeks and switching your testosterone to a long ester for 10 weeks. you need to do more research and perhaps if you want to run prop just run it alone like stated above.