My First Cycle

[finnamin]

Hello everybody, I was hoping to get some input on my first cycle.
Deca Equipoise d-bol
Week 1= 100mg 100mg 10mg/day
Week 2= 200mg 100mg 20mg/day
week 3= 300mg 200mg 25mg/day
week 4= 300mg 200mg 25mg/day
week 5= 300mg 300mg 25mg/day
week 6= 200mg 300mg 25mg/day
week 7= 100mg 300mg 25mg/day
week 8= 0mg 300mg 25mg/day
Tren Winny
week 9-14= 90mg/EOD 50mg/ED
week 15-16= 50mg/ED
week 17-20= clomid 300-100,50,50

I already have all of the gear and I am ready to go, I think. I just have a few questions.

1. Is this cycle too long?

2. Can I gain mass in the first part of the cycle and then cut in the next?

3. Should I shorten this to 6 weeks deca/dbol/eq and then use the tren and winny for 6, 8 weeks respectively?

4. Do I need to keep all of this gear refrigerated?

5. Is proviron at 25mg/day enough to keep the bitch tits away?

6. Do I need to use antiestrogens during the winny/tren phase?

7. Will using winny for 2 extra weeks help me to keep more of my gains or should I just end it all at the same time?

8. Do I need to bake my tren? I have already dissolved, mixed, and filtered it.

Thank you you for reading and any help you can give

 

[Nimrod25]

Add some test.
Do not use eq and deca.
Your doses are way too low.

Try:
week 1-10 500mg test
week 1-10 400mg eq
week 1-5 25mg/day dbol
week 1-6 75mg/day fina
week 7-12 50mg/day winny
week 13 clomid

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I think this is way to complicated. I would leave out the Tren and Winny and do a simple mass cycle. You shoyuld not cut so fast after a bulk cycle as well as you have a better chance of losing your gains. Try this
Deca at 300mg/week for weeks 1-10
Eq at 400mg/week for weeks 1-10
D-Bol at 30mg/Day for weeks 1-5
Get some Test to run through out if possable. Start the Clomid 3 weeks after your last shot. Save the Winny and Tren for a cut cycle later on. Store to gear in a dry place not exposed to light and make sure it does not get to hot in that area but no it does not need to be refrigerated

M18

 

[drgoodbody]

for your own good....

I won't flame you, but you need to do some more home work. The cycle is far too long, is underdosed and will likely suppress the hell out of your natural T production while yielding little to no results. You my friend will be vastly disappointed.

Do a little more homework, and keep posting,

DrG

 

[Nimrod25]

I disagree with using Eq and deca, they are way to similar.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I disagree with using Eq and deca, they are way to similar.

Yeah but Lawnsaver as well as many others from the board have used them together with very good results. I myself have never used them together and I don't think I ever will but it can be done

M18

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

do something simple for a first cycle, thats the way I feel, some say hit the receptors hard, but I disagree because you get more and more experienced with steroids after each and every cycle, you learn more, then do the big cycle and hit the receptors hard. So thats why I say start out with 2 or 3 juices, not 5. Start with a small cheaper cycle, see what kind of gains you get from just 2-3 and what doses then up those.

Test@ 400mg 1-10 a week
D-bol@ 30-40mg ed weeks 1-4 or 1-5
or
Eq @ 600mg a week
D-bol@ 30-40mg
or
deca @450mg 1-10
winny@ 50ed 4-10
just my opinon

 

[jakeH2]

Up the doses, and either eq or deca, not both

 

[drgoodbody]

IMHO Eq is crap - dosed so low that you have to inject a ton of it to get anywhere (400-600 mg/week with Eq at 50mg/ml means injecting 8-12 ml a week!). Dump the Eq - go with higher dosage androgens.

DrG

 

[MUSTANG_18]

IMHO Eq is crap - dosed so low that you have to inject a ton of it to get anywhere (400-600 mg/week with Eq at 50mg/ml means injecting 8-12 ml a week!). Dump the Eq - go with higher dosage androgens.

DrG

Wrong! With the New Eq out (Ttokkyo 200mg/ml and Ultragan 100mg/ml) you don't have to inject as much. Eq is a great drug

M18