My Diet Plan (for upcoming HST cycle)

[Tom Treutlein]

I tried to throw in a bit more variety now. Less milk. Only at night to slow absorption along with some peanut butter and cottage cheese. Lots of carbs in the morning with some whey to get me going. Dry roasted, unsalted nuts in my 2nd fat meal. Meals 1, 3, and 6 are carbs. Meals 2 and 7 are fats. Meals 4 and 5 are pre/post-training, respectively. Meal 8 is protein only, besides some fat from peanut butter which shouldn't be a problem.

I'll be waking up at 7:45-8:00 AM every morning. Meals are spaced pretty evenly, and I tried to distribute protein nicely throughout the day. On non-training days, meals 4 and 5 will still exist, unless I decide to go out to lunch or something. Even though it's only whey, the meals will happen about an hour of one another anyway so I should be fine.

I'll probably be going to sleep late. Maybe 1-2 AM just because that's me. I'll try to get in at midnight and be done, so I get a solid 8 hours. I have the next 5 months off. Nothing. No work, no school. Don't ask. I might pick up a job a bit into the Summer, but for now it's strictly HST with a solid diet plan. I hope it's solid. You guys, let me know.

Sorry if the copy & paste is screwed up a bit. The subtotals for each meal are shown, then the grand total at the end. I'm 17, 14% bodyfat (a very rough estimate), 5'11.5", 177 lbs (give or take, water weight and a dial scale ), with 2 years of training experience on and off (I guess 6 months of solid training, 3 months of solid diet) so I hope this will work for me. Well, I know it will. I just hope it works well!

Meal 1 (8:00 AM)
100% Whole Grain Oats 150 3 27 5
100% Whole Grain Oats 150 3 27 5
Protein Powder 110 1.5 3 23
Total Corn Flakes 110 0 24 2
2% Milk 100 2.5 12 8
620 10 93 43

Meal 2 (10:30 AM)
CL Tuna/Water 150 1.25 0 32.5
Smucker's ANPB 210 16 6 8
UDO's Oil 125 14.5 0 0
485 31.75 6 40.5

Meal 3 (1:00 PM)
Red Kidney Beans 70 0 22 9
Red Kidney Beans 70 0 22 9
100% Whole Grain Oats 150 3 27 5
Protein Powder 110 1.5 3 23
400 4.5 74 46

Pre-Training (2:00 PM)
Protein Powder 110 1.5 3 23

Post-Training (3:00 PM)
Protein Powder 110 1.5 3 23

Meal 6 (4:00 PM)
Rienzi Wagon Wheels 200 0.5 43 6
Rienzi Wagon Wheels 200 0.5 43 6
CL Tuna/Water 150 1.25 0 32.5
550 2.25 86 44.5

Meal 7 (6:30 PM)
Extra Virgin Olive Oil 120 14 0 0
Unsalted D/R Peanuts 160 14 6 7
Almonds 170 14 5 6
Protein Powder 110 1.5 3 23
560 43.5 14 36

Meal 8 (9:00 PM)
Whipped Cottage Cheese 90 1 3 16
Smucker's ANPB 210 16 6 8
2% Milk 100 2.5 12 8
2% Milk 100 2.5 12 8
400 22 33 40

2835 117 312 296

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Okay I'm guessing no criticism is good criticism...or...something. Can someone just give me a yes or no to a simple - "is this good?" ?

 

[Tom Treutlein]

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[JKurz1]

what do you want in a reply and why the hell are some items doubled? Very confusing....

Wagon wheels?? How cute......nothing like processed pasta..........

 

[Tom Treutlein]

I doubled the items if I'm having 2 servings of them.

Wagon wheels are processed? What's so bad about them, and what pastas aren't and would be a better choice?

What I wanted in a reply was criticism for my diet, to know if it was a solid plan or not. I said that in my first post.

 

[juve]

can you exclude commercial names - like ANPB instead of Smucker's ANPB, because I didn't read ANPB part I took me a while to figure wtf you ralking about. Also wtf is wagon wheels??? and most importantly WTF is HST (don't hate please)??????

 

[bran987]

wagon wheels are like the little macaroni and cheese pastas that are shaped differently so kids will think they are having play-time during dinner.

they can also be shaped like dinosaurs!

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Haha, and HST is a training routine I was going to follow. It's between that and DC training. www.hypertrophy-specific.com is the link.

So, some criticism please?

Wagon wheels kick ass.

 

[bran987]

that is way too much to read... what kind of a routine is it in general?

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Check the training methods sticky on the training boards, it's there. Basically, 3x a week training, fullbody, 1-2 sets per bodypart. The idea is training with high frequency, low-volume, not to failure so you can train more often and make gains. It's specefically made for size gains, and there's a ton of science behind it. Plus a great deal of results which suggest it's one of the best methods for gaining size. I may do DC though simply because I feel more satisfied after a session of his training than HST.

 

[bran987]

oh shit

tha'ts how I train

worked for me

 

[juve]

Check the training methods sticky on the training boards, it's there. Basically, 3x a week training, fullbody, 1-2 sets per bodypart. The idea is training with high frequency, low-volume, not to failure so you can train more often and make gains. It's specefically made for size gains, and there's a ton of science behind it. Plus a great deal of results which suggest it's one of the best methods for gaining size. I may do DC though simply because I feel more satisfied after a session of his training than HST.

WOW, very interesting. The very first weightlifting I have ever incorporated was a similar concept of full-body workouts 1-2 excercises per muscle group. Funny, as I didn't know any better back then, and now it appears like someone developed it into an actual weightlifting routine. It definately procures results, speaking from personal experience.
BTW: whatever routine you adopt you gotta be a cretin to eat those wheels or whatever - I mean of all the sources of carbs available, duh. 2% milk=absolute trash. corn flakes - are you brain damaged? You combine some excellent sources of nutrients (ie whole garin oats, beans, nuts) with trash - why? Get more fish oil there, and diversify protein sources (I mean there's an extensive variety to choose from as opposed to crappy milk)

 

[bran987]

you gotta be a cretin to eat those wheels or whatever -

2% milk=absolute trash.

are you brain damaged?

combine some excellent sources of nutrients with trash - why?

crappy milk)

hahaha! this is the juve I love. tear him up! Tom, HST sounds great, but do a search for good carb sources!

 

[Tom Treutlein]

The milk is something I won't give up, regardless of how much "aboslute trash" it happens to be.

Brain damaged - if DXM can do that, then yes.

Pasta, as far as I knew, was a good source of carbs. Care explaining to me why they're not? Is any pasta good? A quick 10 noodles is 43 grams of carbs, 2 sugars, and 1 fiber. Can't be all that bad.

 

[juve]

"aboslute trash"

are you mocking someone here? if it's me, then the word absolute happens to be spelled correctly in my post, but that's besides the point.

Pasta - where did you hear this was good for any type of dietary routine? It's a refined carb polymer - I don't know how well it fares on the GI scale, but its glycemic load is huge - avoid it, unless gaining fat comes as a second priority after muscle. You have whole grain oats - excellent food choice, same goes to red kidney beans. Look into lentins, peas, cream of wheat, albran, barley for carb choices.

For pro choices - get some eggs/whites, meats, fish + shakes- why rely on milk?

And stay off the drugs

 

[~SC~]

The milk is something I won't give up, regardless of how much "aboslute trash" it happens to be.

Brain damaged - if DXM can do that, then yes.

Pasta, as far as I knew, was a good source of carbs. Care explaining to me why they're not? Is any pasta good? A quick 10 noodles is 43 grams of carbs, 2 sugars, and 1 fiber. Can't be all that bad.

You ask for a critique, people suggest what you should do, yet you ignore the suggestions. Milk is shit, but keep drinking it since you are set in your ways! Processed/stripped flour foods (the pasta you love) is NOT a good source of carbs, not sure where you attained your dietary education.

If you are set in your ways, why are you asking for advice Milk Man?

~SC~
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[Tom Treutlein]

First off, not mocking you Juve. Just saying, whether it's trash or not I wanna keep that.

Oh, by the way, the misspelling of absolute if called a typo, so don't be a jackass and attack someone on a mistake.

SC - I don't ignore the suggestions, I take them into account, but I want to see how many things were wrong with the diet. Seeing as the milk and pasta were the only real two of them, and then a lack of diversity of protein sources, I figure it's not that bad. I'm not in it to be a bodybuilder. Just lifting to gain some extra mass. So, I'm asking for advice because I wanted to know how many flaws my diet had.

Where I attained dietary education? Eh, I'm 17. Not really getting much education in diet, except from what I read on these boards.

Prick.

 

[~SC~]

You're 17, it's very clear now.

Prick.

~SC~
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[psychedout]

You're 17, it's very clear now.

Prick.

~SC~
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www.gotswole.com
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259, 264

SC you are the man.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Yeah he's the man, assuming I'm asking to see what's wrong with my diet and then attacking me on being "set in my ways" when I don't see a reason to change such minor details and and ain't in it as anything more than a hobby.