My Cycle Prob

[streetyfatb]

Hi,

I am about to start my 5th cycle here it is:

Week 1 - 8 Test Prop @ 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 Tren Ace @ 100mg EOD
Week 1 - 8 Anavar @ 50mg ED
Week 3 - 8 HCG @ 500iu EW (250iu x2)
Week 1 - 8 Armidex @ 0.5mg ED
Week 8-12 IGF L3 @ 60mcg PWO
Week 8-12 Clomid 25-50mg
Week 8-12 Nolva 20mg ED
Week 8-12 Aromasin 25mg EOD
Week 1 – 8 Clen 80 – 120mcg ED (2 Days on 2 Days off)


Only think is anavar is way too expensive my source says £50 per 10 days @ 50mg a day when some people recommend running it @ 100mg per day?

Anyway I was wondering what I could use to replace anavar to help with this cutting cycle? Something that will also help build structure, and tone etc, I have dropped my body fat to about 12% from 15% for this cycle, and its tough! Also I am thinking of upping the tren to 150mg EOD and Test Prop to 200mg EOD?? what you guys think? Cheers

 

[streetyfatb]

maybe using primo in there at high dosages?? help?

Cheers

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

what about some oral winny. its a lil cheaper

 

[streetyfatb]

I have not heard any good reports about winstrol, so Im not sure, could do? What dosage would you recommend? Also isn't it very toxic to the liver?

 

[socket]

I have not heard any good reports about winstrol, so Im not sure, could do? What dosage would you recommend? Also isn't it very toxic to the liver?

Winstrol is one of the ultimate cutting compounds. As for not hearing good things about it, where have you been??? Everyone loves the stuff.

It is toxic on the liver, but there are steps you can take to minimise the risk, and only run for short durations, i.e. 6-8 weeks at 50mg/day.

It will also help with the progesterone sides from the T.ren.

You might want to do some T3 with that stack as well.

 

[BIGMIke007]

Some things i personally prefer;

-I would run the HCG the same you did but then 4 days after your last injection of Test Prop do 5-7 days of 500IU's ED
-Start the arimidex at week 3 and then carry it over in to PCT - this way you wont need aromasin too. I dont see a need for aromasin. if you have arimidex for the first couple of weeks of PCT.
- I would also start the clen a bit later (maybe week 4) and then run into PCT - it wont shut you down and its anit-catabolic properties will help maintain mass in PCT and avoid you to gain fat in PCT when you will have to up cals.
- run winny - if you dont mind injecting inject 50mg/day - you will be very happy with the results. If you want you can alternate between injecting and taking orally. Orals are liver toxic but have a synergistic effect as it lowers SHBG, whereas the inj. stimulates IGF-1 and is more anabolic. Both are great. I enjoy doing one week orals, one week injectable (50mg ED or 100mg EOD is fine)
-Do Clomid for 2 weeks and then Nolva for the full 4 weeks

 

[ukkared]

Definitely go with winstrol orals

 

[st8grad]

Might want to consider letrozole over adex with the trenbolone. Also the aromasin by itself can make a nice PCT without the clomid and nolvadex. Stick with the trenbolone at that dosage and go two extra weeks instead of bumping it higher.

Hi,

I am about to start my 5th cycle here it is:

Week 1 - 8 Test testosterone propionate @ 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 trenbolone Ace @ 100mg EOD
Week 1 - 8 Anavar @ 50mg ED
Week 3 - 8 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - @ 500iu EW (250iu x2)
Week 1 - 8 Armidex @ 0.5mg ED
Week 8-12 IGF L3 @ 60mcg PWO
Week 8-12 Clomid 25-50mg
Week 8-12 Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 20mg ED
Week 8-12 Aromasin 25mg EOD
Week 1 – 8 Clenbuterol 80 – 120mcg ED (2 Days on 2 Days off)


Only think is anavar is way too expensive my source says £50 per 10 days @ 50mg a day when some people recommend running it @ 100mg per day?

Anyway I was wondering what I could use to replace anavar to help with this cutting cycle? Something that will also help build structure, and tone etc, I have dropped my body fat to about 12% from 15% for this cycle, and its tough! Also I am thinking of upping the trenbolone to 150mg EOD and testosterone propionate to 200mg EOD?? what you guys think? Cheers

 

[needtogetaas]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ems-i-will-come-up-something-help-558544.html

 

[streetyfatb]

What ifc I changed my cycle to:

Week 1 - 8 Test testosterone propionate @ 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 trenbolone Ace @ 100mg EOD
Week 1 - 8 Primobolan @ 200mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 Winstrol @ 50mg EOD (tabs)
Week 3 - 8 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - @ 500iu EW (250iu x2)
Week 1 - 8 Armidex @ 0.5mg ED
Week 8-12 IGF L3 @ 60mcg PWO
Week 8-12 Clomid 25-50mg
Week 8-12 Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 20mg ED
Week 8-12 Aromasin 25mg EOD
Week 1 – 8 Clenbuterol 80 – 120mcg ED (2 Days on 2 Days off)

 

[st8grad]

It looks solid streety. But winstrol tabs you should do ED...I would only do injects EOD.

The PCT seems overkill. Drop the clomid and run the aromasin and tamoxifen every day.

What ifc I changed my cycle to:

Week 1 - 8 Test testosterone propionate @ 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 trenbolone Ace @ 100mg EOD
Week 1 - 8 Primobolan @ 200mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 Winstrol @ 50mg EOD (tabs)
Week 3 - 8 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - @ 500iu EW (250iu x2)
Week 1 - 8 Armidex @ 0.5mg ED
Week 8-12 IGF L3 @ 60mcg PWO
Week 8-12 Clomid 25-50mg
Week 8-12 Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 20mg ED
Week 8-12 Aromasin 25mg EOD
Week 1 – 8 Clenbuterol 80 – 120mcg ED (2 Days on 2 Days off)