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My cycle.....how about PCT?

Sanel27

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Ok guys, im putting my summer bulking/cutting cycle together so gimme some ideas of what i should, shouldnt do and this is all the gear i have so its all ill pretty much have to use..............I dont have a clue what to do about pct though...

Cycle:

Week 1-10 Test Enanthate 600mgs /EW (Swisher Labs)
Week 1-10 Deca 300mgs /EW (QV)
Week 1-10 Equipose 300mgs /EW (Swisher Labs)


PCT: i have Nolvadex 10mg tabs and Clomid 50mgs tabs, all pharmaceutical....

Now i hear that i shouldnt run Nolvadex as not to hinder gains and it wont stop Progesterone gyno from Deca, i heard that i should use it PCT and not for Anti - E.

I plan on using Clomid as i used it for my first 2 cycles and it worked great, ill combine it with Nolvadex for PCT.


WHAT do i use for anti-e's during the cycle...............i hear l-dex is good and i heard good things about AIFM.....i dont think i could get my hands (at the moment) at HCG but is there anything else that acts as HCG and would stop my nuts from shrinking and will act as a good anti-E?

Any help would be appreciated guys....................thanx in advance
 
Sanel27 said:
WHAT do i use for anti-e's during the cycle...............i hear l-dex is good and i heard good things about AIFM.....i dont think i could get my hands (at the moment) at HCG but is there anything else that acts as HCG and would stop my nuts from shrinking and will act as a good anti-E?

Any help would be appreciated guys....................thanx in advance

After 10 weeks of deca, I would suggest at least going thru 5000IUs of HCG. If that's not an option, you can go with a combination of nolvadex +clomid and add arimidex in the start of the PCT.

week 1-2: arimidex
week 1-4: clomid + nolvadex
week 5-6: nolvadex
 
Sanel27 said:
Ok guys, im putting my summer bulking/cutting cycle together so gimme some ideas of what i should, shouldnt do and this is all the gear i have so its all ill pretty much have to use..............I dont have a clue what to do about pct though...

Cycle:

Week 1-10 Test Enanthate 600mgs /EW (Swisher Labs)
Week 1-10 Deca 300mgs /EW (QV)
Week 1-10 Equipose 300mgs /EW (Swisher Labs)


PCT: i have Nolvadex 10mg tabs and Clomid 50mgs tabs, all pharmaceutical....

Now i hear that i shouldnt run Nolvadex as not to hinder gains and it wont stop Progesterone gyno from Deca, i heard that i should use it PCT and not for Anti - E.

I plan on using Clomid as i used it for my first 2 cycles and it worked great, ill combine it with Nolvadex for PCT.


WHAT do i use for anti-e's during the cycle...............i hear l-dex is good and i heard good things about AIFM.....i dont think i could get my hands (at the moment) at HCG but is there anything else that acts as HCG and would stop my nuts from shrinking and will act as a good anti-E?

Any help would be appreciated guys....................thanx in advance
get some aifm and run that for your ai.

nolva and clomid are fine for pct although some will recomend hcg

bowtech loves that combo of deca and eq so if he doesnt chime in pm him and ask him some question about the stack, cause hes all for it... other opinion

kick the deca out to 12 and the eq out to 12-14 either way run the test 2 weeks longer then u run either of the other two....


how many cycles have u done and what are your stats and what is the diet gunna look like?
 
AIFM during cycle (aromasin is also a good choice)

Nolva on hand

Clomid or Nolva for PCT (there is still significant debate on which is better- likely its user dependant to some extent)- if clomid worked great for you, stick with it.

AIFM can be post during the post cycle as well (particularly if you choose to use HCG as part of your PCT)
 
macrophage69alpha said:
AIFM during cycle (aromasin is also a good choice)

Nolva on hand

Clomid or Nolva for PCT (there is still significant debate on which is better- likely its user dependant to some extent)- if clomid worked great for you, stick with it.

AIFM can be post during the post cycle as well (particularly if you choose to use HCG as part of your PCT)

Well, i used to have loads of HCG, but now recently with one of my suppliers moving to the west coast im at loss for HCG, but will have to do this cycle without it.......

I'll probably get some AIFM for anti-e during the cycle.........that and if i get my hands of arimidex (thats expensive now goddamn)...

Maybe by the end of the cycle i get some HCG, i just want to bring my boys back in action as quick as i can......

As for X - Man's question about my stats and diet:

Im 6'2", 195lbs and working my way up to 205 or 210 naturally, that is i wont Juice for another month and a half or so......I had some time off the gym (7 months) and i just got back a month ago, so by the Mid-May ill start juicing...

My diet is pretty clean, i mean i put in a cheat meal here and there, but i make up for it by doing cardio for 30min 5x-week.

Planning about taking in 3400-3800 calories as not to bulk up crazily but still enough to put on weight. protein/carb/fat ratio will be 40/40/20....

I mean if anybody sees room for improvement please lemme know, im open to all advice.........
 
I wouldnt even bother with eq at that dose. I know you said it's all you have, but I learned a long time ago to run things the right way and not waste gear by trying to get a little something out of nothing.
 
Outtlaw said:
I wouldnt even bother with eq at that dose. I know you said it's all you have, but I learned a long time ago to run things the right way and not waste gear by trying to get a little something out of nothing.


The reason im using EQ at 300mgs a week and not 600mgs a week is because ill be combining it with Deca...

I cant use Test 500mgs a week
Deca 500mgs a week
Equip 500mgs a week

this is my third cycle, and i never used deca before, so a lot of bros' from here advice was to use deca between 200mgs-400mgs, so i settled at 300mgs (1cc of QV deca) and i thought i might add a shot of EQ instead of shot of Deca a week........

Anybody else think i should either up the dose on EQ or stay as it is.........keep in mind that ill be running test and deca alongside, eq is just complementing those 2 drugs...
 
Test 1-11 and deca 1-10.300mg of deca for first timer is good.Eq wont do much at that dosage so id suggest u leave eq for another cycle.Pct 2 weeks after last shot of test.
 
Sanel27 said:
The reason im using EQ at 300mgs a week and not 600mgs a week is because ill be combining it with Deca...

I cant use Test 500mgs a week
Deca 500mgs a week
Equip 500mgs a week

this is my third cycle, and i never used deca before, so a lot of bros' from here advice was to use deca between 200mgs-400mgs, so i settled at 300mgs (1cc of QV deca) and i thought i might add a shot of EQ instead of shot of Deca a week........

Anybody else think i should either up the dose on EQ or stay as it is.........keep in mind that ill be running test and deca alongside, eq is just complementing those 2 drugs...
I would either up the dose on the eq or the deca, and drop the other.
 
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