My Cycle Debate

[streetyfatb]

Hi,

I am having a bit of debate with my friend as we have different opinions about what should be in my cycle.

I am 5"8 - 5"9 and weight roughly 217lbs. I have been training for 5-6 years and have been off steroids for 1 year with 4 cycles previous experience.

I hope to gain reasonable size, with a much lower body fat.

Here is what I have drawn up

Week 1 - 8 800 mg Test Mix
Week 1 - 6 Tren Ace 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 Winni tabs 50mg ED
Week 1 - 8 Clen 80mcg (2weeks on 2 weeks off routa)
Week 1 - 8 Armidex
Week 1 - 8 t3
And maybe Dostinex @ 1mg per week

He suggests not using tren ace, but Eq or Deca and primo with 1000mg+ of test with armidex winno tabs and clen saying i will bulk up and keep water low if i keep on the clen, armidex and winni but I am convinced I will just blow up and become undefined.

Has anyone got any ideas or anything to share or suggestions to make im sort of confused now, I was just going to do what I originally suggested, however he has apex tren ace @ 75mg per ml whish I have used before and was useless he says that was because apex had problems a while back which have been sorted out now???

Cheers guys if anyone can clear this up.

 

[702daswoll1]

Hi,

I am having a bit of debate with my friend as we have different opinions about what should be in my cycle.

I am 5"8 - 5"9 and weight roughly 217lbs. I have been training for 5-6 years and have been off steroids for 1 year with 4 cycles previous experience.

I hope to gain reasonable size, with a much lower body fat.

Here is what I have drawn up

Week 1 - 8 800 mg Test Mix
Week 1 - 6 trenbolone Ace 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 Winni tabs 50mg ED
Week 1 - 8 Clenbuterol 80mcg (2weeks on 2 weeks off routa)
Week 1 - 8 Armidex
Week 1 - 8 t3
And maybe Dostinex @ 1mg per week

He suggests not using trenbolone ace, but Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - or Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Primobolan - methenolone - with 1000mg+ of test with armidex winno tabs and Clenbuterol saying i will bulk up and keep water low if i keep on the Clenbuterol, armidex and winni but I am convinced I will just blow up and become undefined.

Has anyone got any ideas or anything to share or suggestions to make im sort of confused now, I was just going to do what I originally suggested, however he has apex trenbolone ace @ 75mg per ml whish I have used before and was useless he says that was because apex had problems a while back which have been sorted out now???

Cheers guys if anyone can clear this up.

Everything looks good. I would run it longer though.. If you are wishing to run an 8 week cycle Equipoise and primobolan would be useless as they both should be ran a minimum of 12 weeks preferably longer. That is a good cycle and you will like the results from the tren. You might not like the sides though that is why running tren ace is a good idea because it will clear quickly if you cannot handle it.

 

[streetyfatb]

so my cycle looks good he says i should start with cutting products and end with bulkin products like use tren at end of cycle, im not convinced with what he is saying. Is the apex tren any good?

Plus I need to have lots of EQ and Primo to notice the effects which is very expensive?

Cheers

 

[holy ghost]

fuck what your friend says,

yeah youre dead on about EQ AND PRIMO.

keep it the way it is the clen/winny/tren /adex will kep you rock hard!

 

[streetyfatb]

Okay so stick to the cycle that I have choosen it will rip me up really well? The Apex tren ace is it any good?

 

[xrsist]

tren ace is best shot ED to help with sides, if you havent ran tren before you might wanna start at 50mg ED.. get some letro just in case the tren says fuck you.. haha..

cheers bro

 

[holy ghost]

Yes trenbolone can fuck you through gyno

and it really sends your personality to the dumps.

 

[needtogetaas]

um so whats your goals on this cycle bro...hows your diet and how many cycles have you don in the past.

 

[streetyfatb]

I have used tren ace in the past 3 of 4 cycles its brill going to run 150mg eod will there be much difference running 75mg - 100mg ed and if so what? Is the apex version any good as I used this before with not as good results as other brands, the apex is whats availible to me at this moment in time

 

[streetyfatb]

I have previously ran 4 cycles I am to gain solid muscle mass and lower body fat my diet is getting better lowering fats and upping proteins I have just cut down my carbs too but I think I will raise them again when im on, im using muscletech supplements (nitrotech hardcore celltech hardcore may get anator)

 

[needtogetaas]

I have previously ran 4 cycles I am to gain solid muscle mass and lower body fat my diet is getting better lowering fats and upping proteins I have just cut down my carbs too but I think I will raise them again when im on, im using muscletech supplements (nitrotech hardcore celltech hardcore may get anator)

well deca is very cal dependent so I would stick to the cycle you already have if thats your goals...

 

[streetyfatb]

what do u mean by deca being very cal?

 

[holy ghost]

What the man means is

Your results linger on how much kcal you take in
if you get 4k clean cal while on deca ED you are going to fucking blow up
period and simple.

 

[xrsist]

I have used trenbolone ace in the past 3 of 4 cycles its brill going to run 150mg eod will there be much difference running 75mg - 100mg ed and if so what? Is the apex version any good as I used this before with not as good results as other brands, the apex is whats availible to me at this moment in time

its brill?? that must be some pom slang.. lol
if you got 75mg per ml of tren its just easier to shoot it ED and will help with sides.
not sure on the brand but im sure another bro here can help you out..

cheers

 

[needtogetaas]

What the man means is

Your results linger on how much kcal you take in
if you get 4k clean cal while on Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ED you are going to fucking blow up
period and simple.

ya more cals means more gains on deca.thanks for clearing that up bro...

 

[holy ghost]

Yeah sure thing, im just your ordinary G in creased Khakiz!

 

[big greg 82]

HOLLA!

 

[streetyfatb]

would any of you guys recommend adding anything 2 bulk me up slightly without bloating me up too much? Looking at my cycle plan

Week 1 - 8 800 mg Test Mix
Week 1 - 6 trenbolone Ace 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 6 Winni tabs 50mg ED
Week 1 - 8 Clenbuterol 80mcg (2weeks on 2 weeks off routa)
Week 1 - 8 Armidex
Week 1 - 8 t3
And maybe Dostinex @ 1mg per week

 

[holy ghost]

bro throw some masteron in there and you will be a fucking madman

fuck adding any more orlals you got enough already!

hope youre running lots of goodies along with your cycle

liver cleaners, etc

 

[streetyfatb]

I have used materon before with no real results so anything else, what would you recommend running taking to clean liver, milk thistle?

 

[holy ghost]

milk thistle, NaR-Ala

yeah masteron benefits dudes with totally low bf

Id just add TBol man honestly

I have added masteron to bulkers because of insane str gains

 

[rambleon]

Like the guys i think ur friend is wrong. Go with ur own scheme. I looked at it and wondered about the t3 dose tho. If ur considering a classic taper up to 100 mcg and back i think u should limit it to 6 weeks. If ur running it at say 25 mcg as a tren ancilliary just run it the full 8.