My balls are normal, lol

[BrunoES]

Just finished my cycle:

1-5 dbol 50mg ed
1-10 nandrolone 400mg/week
1-16 test e 500mg/week

starting pct today, but I noticed my balls are the normal size lol they got small during the cycle, but i felt them today, and they are on their regular size, what does it mean exaclty? its good right? lol but it doesnt mean my test is ok i guess

 

[BrunoES]

bump

 

[Headholio]

Maybe you forgot how big they are supposed to be?

It seems odd they would not shrink after 16 weeks. And you are right, regardless of size, you are very probably totally suppressed.

 

[BrunoES]

I ddnt forget about how big they were for two reasons:

1. During the cycle I remember they being like the size of a grape seed lol

2. Today I told my gf to feel them, and she said they were back again LOL

I know it doesnt mean my test is ok, i just wanted to know if it even meant anything, but anyway pct started, clomid 100/100/50/50 and tamox 40/40/20/20

 

[callmejay]

It is a good sign. It means you were completely shutdown and that your nads are still working on a basic level and sending/receiving the LH signal.

Were you using an AI on cycle? You may want some sort of estro control like forma or low-dose aromasin during PCT. That clomid dose is a little high - the effectiveness per mg tapers off between 25-50mg. You can get a lot from clomid with less side using just 50/50/25/25.

Nolvadex isn't all it is cracked up to be and you would likely be fine without it. I don't blame you for including it in PCT because it's a staple on most forums and even some mods on this board were supporters of it no less than a year ago, until switching to the "all natural" approach.

Based on my own research, I have read that nolva/tamox can be extremely toxic to your liver and has some additional genotoxic side effects. So I have decided not to include it in my PCT and am just using clomid @ 50/25/25/25 along with DAA and 6.25mg aromasin eod. I would prefer to use forma but have concerns about transferring it to my family through physical contract. I have no doubts I will recover just fine, but I am mid-cycle now so only time will tell