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Tiervexx
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UA_Iron said:
Anarcho-capitalism really is not a lot alike some ideas of Anarchism you might have.
It simply means that EVERYTHING is privatized, and open to free competion. For example, if you go out of your way to cause trouble, a private security firm would just hawl you away to a court.
It is very likly that under such an individualistic system people would be more widly armed, so the most likely result of you causing trouble is you getting shot by whoever's rights you where trying to violate. Get it?
BTW, if you read articals before attacking them you would not make as much of an ass out of yourself.
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Tiervexx said:
I was talking about classical anarchism, not anarcho-capitalism. I have not yet read the article - and I did not attack it.
Does this need more clarification?
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Ok, tiervexx, since youve got it all figured out. Explain how Anarchocapitalism and healthcare in the US with an aging population and social security. People who built this country and paid into the system and trust fund their whole lives are now reaching retirement age. How would your system with the rising costs of medical care pay to help old people receive medical care that they so desparately need. How does it pay for large systems such as medical care and dont say privatize it b/c private organizations go out of business and the capital investment is huge and Im sure you are aware of issues like dialysis machines and how the govt had to step in and pay for them in the beginning. Were talking about life and death of real people. If you believe in anarchy then those of us who work in medicine think you are just ignorant of how systems work on large scales but Id love to hear you explain how you could transition my field into a workable anarchical system so that people dont die from lack of infrastructure. Then we can transition from that to providing security and defense b/c afterall Im sure youre smart enough to understand geopolitical realities. So Im all ears, Ill debate you, I might be at a disadvantage seeing as how you have two years of college under your belt and know it all already but Ill see if I can ask some questions that may make you think, Im sure you'll be able to answer them seriously. Please, no cutnpastes, in your own words
Tiervexx
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BrothaBilly said:
The cost of Medicare is many times it's actual market value because the FDA blocks a lot of research and competition in that industry. Pharmaceutical companies actually lobby FOR the excessive regulation because it helps protect their monopoly thereby making it possible for them to price gouge.
Look up the prices of Healthcare and medical insurance in the 1960s when the government first got involved, and compare those to now, you will notice that it’s gotten a lot worse in a big hurry.
Want proof? They say healthcare is getting more expensive because it is getting more advanced but computer technology is growing much faster despite falling costs. You know the fundamental difference between the computer industry and the health industry is that one of these is a lot more regulated than the other.
But I could have told you this before even going to college, I read about it just on my own time, and there are very few economists that still think that socialist Medicare is a good idea. My economics TA last year was very apolitical, and had almost no interest in politics except that he really hated our Medicare system. You said you just wanted my own words so here they are, but I could link you to a shitload of facts and figure going into detail about how much of a mistake it was for government to get into the healthcare business. I don't think anyone has it "all figured out" but I am very confident that this particular issue is very one-sided in my favor.
Tiervexx
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yes government is needed to help people pay for the current mess Medicare is in but YES I'M GOING TO SAY PRIVATIZE IT.
Harry Brown liked to say that "govenrment is good at one thing, it can break your leg, hand you a crutch, and say see, if it was not for govenrment you' wouldn't be able to walk" The aparent need for government help in Medicare only exists because the FDA has long been sheilding it from real free compitition.
So in short, medicare = the crutch, but the FDA is what broke our legs in the first place.
Harry Brown liked to say that "govenrment is good at one thing, it can break your leg, hand you a crutch, and say see, if it was not for govenrment you' wouldn't be able to walk" The aparent need for government help in Medicare only exists because the FDA has long been sheilding it from real free compitition.
So in short, medicare = the crutch, but the FDA is what broke our legs in the first place.
Tiervexx
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BrothaBilly said:
This is a very important facility for me to address on it's own.
It is a very popular opinion among school teachers and those that work in Healthcare that privatizing it would be a terrible idea.
I will of course admit that many of them know more about there specific feilds than I do but the problem is that these people often know little to nothing about economics, they base these opinions on ideas about how governments compare with markets that are simply not true.
It is also VERY, VERY important that you understand that about 90% of all failed privatizations that people point too really are a far cry from a real one. In order for an industry to be private the following must be true:
1) It is privately owned
2) Individuals choose where to put there money
3) there are no legal barriers to entry and exit in the market.
Most so called privatizations only meet the first condition. Every single theory about the free-market is dependent on free competition, if some crocked government official hands an industry to his buddy, but still protects it form free competition, than it is still a government agency, just a privately owned one.
If you carefully look up the details about how truely private industries work compared to government ones, you will see that government really can't do anything better, or even as good as the market.
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