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My 3rd Cycle what you guys think

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tylersburden

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3rd cycle

Prep Phase:
Week 1-4 C4 Extreme
Week 1-4 Cycle Assist
Week 1-4 LiverCare
Week 1-4 Get Clean Herb tea for Detoxing
Week 2-4 Letro introduction from previous gyno from cycle (Gyno prone to test E)

Lean Bulk Phase:
Weeks 4-8 250mg a week Test E (Monday Friday)
Weeks 4-8 C4 Extreme
Weeks 4-8 Cycle Assist
Weeks 4-8 LiverCare
Weeks 4-8 Get Clean Herb tea for Detoxing
Weeks 4-8 letro .5mg EOD (gyno prone)


Cut Phase:
Weeks 8-16 250mg Test E (Monday Friday)
Weeks 8-16 Cycle Assist
Weeks 8-16 LiverCare
Weeks 8-16 letro .5mg EOD
Weeks 12-16 HCG From Needtobuild muscle (maybe during pct instead?)
Weeks 12-16 Tren Ace 75mg (fina) EOD

(Caber and prami on hand if needed throughout cycle)

start PCT a week after last Test E injection
weeks 16-22 Nolva 40/40/20/20, Clomid 100/50/50/50

Extra supplementing throughout cycle
Move free advanced (joints)
Extra omega 3

Advice very much Welcomed
 
Stats:
Age: 26
Weight: 164
Hieght: 5'11
Clean Diet Fast Food makes me sick (thank god right)
Train weights in morning and mma couple days a week
lifting since high school, weight bounces around couldn't figure out if I wanted to get huge .... been from 190 to 175 most of the time. 164 now because of lots of road work and ladies ;)

I figured I am going to put on some quality pounds but keep it lean and mean my friends.
I will upload my work out routine asap. Im sitting around 9%-10% bodyfat
I love the wet sauna every two days!!!!!!
 
tylersburden said:
Stats:
Age: 26
Weight: 164
Hieght: 5'11
Clean Diet Fast Food makes me sick (thank god right)
Train weights in morning and mma couple days a week
lifting since high school, weight bounces around couldn't figure out if I wanted to get huge .... been from 190 to 175 most of the time. 164 now because of lots of road work and ladies ;)

I figured I am going to put on some quality pounds but keep it lean and mean my friends.
I will upload my work out routine asap. Im sitting around 9%-10% bodyfat
I love the wet sauna every two days!!!!!!
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At 5'11" and 165lbs you just need to eat. Im 5'7" an currently im in the last 5 days of a 16 week contest diet and i weigh 179. I walk around at 205 and under 10% bodyfat in the off season. You just need food, not steroids
 
lol I eat food and lots of it my man.
Not looking to get huge I wanted to see how you guys like my lay out of the cycle. I thought it was pretty well put out. Plus any ones opinion on the cycle what I may need or not is always appreciated and considered.
here is my diet and weight trainig. I do this for a month then switch my workout to the 300 workout for a month then switch back but with different lifts same reps,

Diet
mornign- Nice bowl of Cheerios, two hard boiled eggs, detox drink in my plan, protien drink, and a carrot (not a baby carrot lol)
snack- another carrot, apple, slices of cheese
lunch- V8 splash, peanutbutter and jelly sandwhich, grapes and another carrots
pre workout- preworkout drink and extra arginin, C4 pumps suck hind titty
post work out- protien drink extra glucoseamine;
Dinner- Veggies, Carbs, steak or a pork chop or some type of meat :)

I like eating and love working out. HAte gyno but love the Test superman feeling ;)

heres my workout for right now

Monday
Legs

Lunges 15x 15x 10x 10x

Squats 15x 15x 10x 10x

Leg Extension 15x 15x 10x 10x

Dead Lift 15x 15x 10x 10x

Calf Raises 15x 15x 10x 10x

Leg Inside Thigh 15x 15x 10x 10x

Hack Squat 15x 15x 10x 10x

Leg Outside Thigh 15x 15x 10x 10x

Tuesday
Back

Behind the neck pull down 15x 15x 10x 10x

Reverse Cable fly 15x 15x 10x 10x

Lateral Barbell Raise 15x 15x 10x 10x

Front PullDown 15x 15x 10x 10x

T-Bar Row 15x 15x 10x 10x

Cable Row 15x 15x 10x 10x

Shrugs 15x 15x 10x 10x








Wednesday
Arms

Tri PushDown 15x 15x 10x 10x

Cable One Arm Curl 15x 15x 10x 10x

Cable Reverse Curl 15x 15x 10x 10x

BareBell Curls 15x 15x 10x 10x

Skull Crushers 15x 15x 10x 10x

Hammer Curls 15x 15x 10x 10x

BarBell Revrse Curls 15x 15x 10x 10x

FRIDAY
CHEST

Bench 15x 15x 10x 10x

Incline Close Grip Dumbell 15x 15x 10x 10x

Military Press (Machine) 15x 15x 10x 10x

Pec-Deck 15x 15x 10x 10x

Incline Bench 15x 15x 10x 10x
 
Everything is jacked up from the cycle to the training, and diet. Scratch all that shit and start over. First eat more and get a solid training program. The program your running doesnt make any sense. You say you want to gain mass, but your training looks more like a womens fitness program. All the important exercises should be first not last. And your too small to have an arm day. Those are for guys with 20+ inch arms. Why are you doing the thigh abductor machines? Those are for women. I dont know who layed out that cycle and pct, but its no good. Fix the diet and training then consider a good cycle. If you have existing gyno treat that now.

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I've used c-4 before its a great pre workout. But imho bro, get your diet on point, get your routine straight, use a pre workout and protein, multis, fish oil, just the basics, and then maybe look into gear, but you would be wasting alot of money doing it at this point in time
 
Agree with all these guys here on diet and training coming first.

Before you get all caught up just remember to keep it simple. Since you are starting out I would work out only 3 -4 days a week. And think about your weekly split. The one you have doesn't even include your shoulders which are a key part in growing your upper body in general. I would stick with a split more like this.

Monday
Shoulders and Triceps

Tuesday
Back

Wednesday
off

Thursday
Chest Bis

Friday
Legs

And every 2 to 4 weeks switch up the order and split. Example Split B

Monday
Back

Tuesday
Shoulders

Wednesday
off

Thursday
legs

Friday
Chest Arms

As far as diet Goes you really need to rethink about your sources of protein. Not one meal except dinner included lean meat. How do you expect to grow without any protein?

Try this diet out and if you dont put on weight then you should just stop and try golf or something.

Meal 1
6-8 egg whites 2 whole eggs
1 cup oatmeal
1 tbsp honey (if your a puss)
1 apple

Meal 2
1/4 cup almonds
1 cup greek yogurt
1 apple

Meal 3
1.5 cups brown rice
2 Chicken Breasts ( Yes eat them both )
fish oil supps/ amino acid supps/
1/2 cap udos oil

pre workout
pre workout drink mixed with half of powerade zero
and amino acids

post workout
1.5 scoops whey protein
2 tbsp honey
other half of powerade zero
Amino acids
1 apple
1 sweet potatoe

Meal 4
1.5 cups brown rice
8-10oz steak/chicken fish or what ever

Meal 6
2 scoops of anabolic whey/casein
1 cup greek yogurt
1 tbsp almond butter.

PS do not use any more gear.
 
Thanks for your advice I will take all into changing my workout. I do high reps for my MMA stuff.

I will eat as much as I can buy for sure. I will change things up but remember I'm not trying to bulk up that much I have a bag of rice and beans i forgot to put in here. I will put in more Carbs and Caleries as you all have reccomended.

I thank you for your help as well. I have done the work out schedual before posted above. Once I lower reps I pack on weight like I just got divorced and sit and drink all day hahahaha. I do 1000 sit-up twice a week and hit the road work at the gym for 60mins while watching tv ;). I know the one body part a day is old school. It was deffinitley a change for sure. I talk with a retired bodybuilder once a week an so on.

I try to stay quick with my striking and all. My boxing coach doesnt want me in the gym, but its in my blood and that's why I can't stay away. I feel my strength will go through the roof with this cycle.

sincerely
Tylersburden
 
oh and going to order the amino's and more protien from Keiser P in a couple of days. I read the Diet and all i need is almonds and chicken breast sooo here I come CoStco.

I will go to 24hour and get my measurements for you guys as well to take a look .... post some before and after pics for a log sounds fun as well.

again thanks guys

:Chef:
 
Thigh workouts are for a harder clinch and squeeze around the waist when I'm clinched in for my chokes like a boa constrictor does. I'm aware these machines are mainly for women, though I feel it will benefit me on the mat for BJJ. Shit, plus pulled some puuty-tang on that machine- believe it or not lol. Ahhhh..... I try not pull women where I work out, but it dont bother me to see those one nighters at the gym. hahahaha oh man
 
Man youre just not eatin enough period. You need more calories and lots more carbs and protein. Just bc yiure not tryin to get huge doesnt exclude you from needing to eat enough. Amd if youre not tryin to get big then why do you wanna take steroids? That in itself makes no sense. You could stay lean and have a decent muscular build by using a good diet and OTC supplements and NOT put your hormone production at risk for your goals. I think you should reconsider the reason for you wanting to take steroids
 
As far as being concerned with loosing striking speed and keeping up with your mma performance I understand that because I used to be a colligiate wrestler. Do not worry about "Bulking", do not worry about "getting too big". The only way for you to lose striking speed or start to lose performance with your mma skills is when you stop practicing them not when you start to pack on muscle or by doing lower rep excersises. In fact the lower rep excercises will only compliment your training when you decide to train mma. Your quickness, speed and striknning are better practiced in the mma room and not the weight room. Utilize your tools to gain maximum effeciency. Point is go to the weight room for its purpose, lift heavy ass weights till failure!
 
Well I looked it over and most of it looks fine, but there were some things I didnt like. For one thing the dl is not done at all. The stiff leg dl is only done once, and this is an accessory move, not a full range mass building dl. The arms get more volume then legs do, which is no good for building muscle. If I remember abs are only done 1-2 xs a week. For a bullet proof core you need to work the abs every day you train. So Id add a version of the dl to my back or leg day every week. You can do conventional, sumo, stiff legg, deficit, block pull, rack pull, or a good morning variation. Pulling builds slabs of muscle and strength so incorporate them. I also would do squats and leg press every week. You can follow the rep and set scheme, but include them. And eat like a horse.

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Why do you need tren at this point? At 5'11, 165 its nowhere near needed and certainly overkill. Youre not even dedicated 100% to the bodybuilding lifestyle, youre just using it to supplement your MMA stuff. Cant get big burning all those calories doing MMA. Tren is the most advanced steroid compound there is and should be reserved for only advanced bodybuilders who are dedicated 100%.
Youre not allowing yourself to "grow into" more advanced cycles and compounds. Your body will attenuate to these advanced drugs and then what are you going to do to get results? Insulin? Massive amounts of HGH? Look at it this way, if you were a junkie and this was your third drug youve tried, youre basically jumping into heroine or crystal meth. Not much else to go from there to get your high right?
 
The tren went great. I focused mainly on the lifting and now I am 188 :).... Don't look that much bigger in my eyes but people seemed to notice. 250lbs ten times on bench now is great. Before It was only 4 maybe 5. Satisfied ...OH yea I am.
 
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