Mother T....

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I posted that one last week....

Dalai Lhama...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXRmPwWGwBA

Ghandi...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-QK35hYIWo

The stuff about the Dalai Lhama was totally unknown to me and makes the handfull of *stars* willing to fund his cause seem ridiculous. I didn't know about the ruling monk social class and EVERYBODY else being left to live in lifelong serfdom. That is messed up.

As for the stuff about Ghandi, the racist aspect of it was fairly reprehensible to me, though somewhat understandable given where he lived and the times in which he lived. I mean, how many people today STILL think they are superior to anyone of a darker skin? You can't really blame the guy. Though I confess, I found it shocking. I never knew of this side of Ghandi's politics. The sexual stuff, yea well, he was a man afterall. So I am not the least bit surprised.

The fact that someone like the Rev Martin Luther King. Jr took Ghandi's politics and was able to SUCCESSFULLY incorporate them into non-violent protest and forwarding a movement that championed THE HUMAN RACE, I found to be just amazing - I mean, here is a guy who would have been HATED by Ghandi based on the color of his skin alone and yet he successfully employed his philosophies of acceptance and love urging us to judge one another on the content of our character alone.

NO HUMAN IS A SAINT. We are all flawed and we have all done things that some or most might consider reprehensible. I dont think that this is what should be given most weight, but rather how it was that we influenced MOST by our words and deeds.

As the quote in my signature says, "Every saint has a past and ever sinner a future." <---- came from the Helen Hunt movie, "A Good Woman."

None of us is perfect, least of all those that claim to be.

 

[heatherrae]

Wow.

How ridiculous. First of all, all nuns have those nun names. They call them Mother so and so. It is is common not to use your name. It doesn't mean shit.

Plus, anyone who gave money to Mother Theresa was giving the money to the Catholic Church. If they had a problem with supporting the Catholic Church, I think they should have chosen a different charity.

Additionally, when someone gives money to charity, is she supposed to spit in their faces and judge their politics, lifestyles, etc? As much as they wanted to make her look like some sort of monster, did she personally benefit from any of that money? Guess they couldn't dig up any dirt on her living the high life. She lived in poverty and serving the poor.

In India, there are absolutely unbelievable living conditions. People die in TERRIBLE conditions. So, she takes in as many as she can in the space that she has. We don't know why the rule about visitors is in place. Perhaps it is because they just have not got the space for all of that.

I'll tell you what, though. She is lots better than people complaining and moaning on the internet and trying to personally profit from degrading her memory. She worked with the poor her entire life and died with NOTHING. I usually like Penn & Teller, but I think they are just being crude now.

I'm not even Catholic. I don't particularly care for the Catholic Church, but defaming Mother Theresa with this little nit-picky bullshit is terrible/

 

[cindylou]

I cant give you anymore K heatherrae

I'm not Catholic either, but some things are in poor taste

but thats the type of show it is, so it is what it is

 

[heatherrae]

I'm not even bothering to watch the Ghandi and Dalai Lama ones. If Penn & Teller can come up with no other factual support for their arguments than some crackpot authors whom no one has even heard of, I completely doubt their credibility.

 

[javaguru]

I'm not even bothering to watch the Ghandi and Dalai Lama ones. If Penn & Teller can come up with no other factual support for their arguments than some crackpot authors whom no one has even heard of, I completely doubt their credibility.

You just need to look at history to see how the priestly ruling class treated Tibet.

 

[heatherrae]

You just need to look at history to see how the priestly ruling class treated Tibet.

I already said that I'm not Catholic. The Catholic church has done some rotten things.

Tibet? You are insulting the Dalai Lama and then talking about Tibet?

Thanks for telling me to review history again in your unending pedantic way. Don't you imagine that I may have picked up a book or two in my 7 years of collegiate study and beyond?

 

[javaguru]

I'm not even bothering to watch the Ghandi and Dalai Lama ones. If Penn & Teller can come up with no other factual support for their arguments than some crackpot authors whom no one has even heard of, I completely doubt their credibility.

You aren't talking about Christopher Hitchens????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens

"Christopher Eric Hitchens (born April 13, 1949) is an British-American author, journalist and literary critic. Currently living in Washington, D.C., he has been a columnist at Vanity Fair, The Atlantic, The Nation, Slate and Free Inquiry; additionally, he is an occasional contributor to other publications and has appeared regularly in the Wall Street Journal. His brother is fellow journalist Peter Hitchens.

Hitchens is known for his iconoclasm, atheism, antitheism, anti-fascism and anti-monarchism. He is also noted for his acerbic wit and his noisy departure from the Anglo-American political left. He was formerly a Trotskyist and a fixture in the left wing publications of Britain and America.[1] But a series of disagreements beginning in the early 1990s led to his resignation from The Nation shortly after the September 11, 2001, attacks.[2] He is also known for his ardent admiration of George Orwell[3] and Thomas Jefferson,[4] and his criticism of Mother Teresa.[5]"

"In September 2005, Hitchens was named as one of the "Top 100 Public Intellectuals"[56] by Foreign Policy and Britain's Prospect magazine. An online poll was held which ranked the 100 intellectuals, but the magazine noted that Hitchens' (#5), Chomsky's (#1), and Abdolkarim Soroush's (#15) rankings were partly due to supporters publicising the vote.[57]

He is an Honorary Associate of the National Secular Society.[58]"

 

[heatherrae]

You aren't talking about Christopher Hitchens????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens

"Christopher Eric Hitchens (born April 13, 1949) is an British-American author, journalist and literary critic. Currently living in Washington, D.C., he has been a columnist at Vanity Fair, The Atlantic, The Nation, Slate and Free Inquiry; additionally, he is an occasional contributor to other publications and has appeared regularly in the Wall Street Journal. His brother is fellow journalist Peter Hitchens.

Hitchens is known for his iconoclasm, atheism, antitheism, anti-fascism and anti-monarchism. He is also noted for his acerbic wit and his noisy departure from the Anglo-American political left. He was formerly a Trotskyist and a fixture in the left wing publications of Britain and America.[1] But a series of disagreements beginning in the early 1990s led to his resignation from The Nation shortly after the September 11, 2001, attacks.[2] He is also known for his ardent admiration of George Orwell[3] and Thomas Jefferson,[4] and his criticism of Mother Teresa.[5]"

"In September 2005, Hitchens was named as one of the "Top 100 Public Intellectuals"[56] by Foreign Policy and Britain's Prospect magazine. An online poll was held which ranked the 100 intellectuals, but the magazine noted that Hitchens' (#5), Chomsky's (#1), and Abdolkarim Soroush's (#15) rankings were partly due to supporters publicising the vote.[57]

He is an Honorary Associate of the National Secular Society.[58]"

Yep, a regular household name. Face it, you didn't know who the hell he was before you wikipedia'd him. He was a columnist for some magazines. Big deal.

 

[heatherrae]

You know, instead of knocking people who are out helping the poor and defaming the dead, maybe your time would be better spent doing some charity work yourself.

 

[javaguru]

Yep, a regular household name. Face it, you didn't know who the hell he was before you wikipedia'd him. He was a columnist for some magazines. Big deal.

A well respected columnist and contributor for.....Vanity Fair, The Atlantic, The Nation, Slate and Free Inquiry and The Wall Street Journal

Those are some pretty shady publications with no journalistic merit...

Apparently some people have heard of him...
"In September 2005, Hitchens was named as one of the "Top 100 Public Intellectuals"[56] by Foreign Policy and Britain's Prospect magazine. An online poll was held which ranked the 100 intellectuals...."