molecular's X-Factor

[javtoss]

anyone with any input on Mr. Llewellen's new product? I think I get the reasoning behind it, but not totally sure. I like Molecular's products, so I'm thinking of trying it.

Any legitimate input would be great

 

[FunkMasterFlex]

i believe this is the arichadonic acid product. Well the science behind increasing prostaglandin output worked for guys who injected the stuff 3-5 times a day and got so damn sore they couldnt work that body part out for a week hehe. The idea is that you are creating inflammation to a higher degree more muscle damage but at the same time increasing protein synth. But i dont think that pill form can do it. All that inflammation isnt good. usually leads to high cortisol levels and such. Just eat alot of red meat and youll get plenty of arachidonic hehe. Also stretching increases IGF-1 and the prostaglandin release. try that too hehe. I got alot of my infor from Chemical Muscle Ehancement.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

a diet high in arachidonic acid is very unhealthy. not to mention that there are plenty of foods in the traditional american diet that are quite high in it as well as its precursors..

 

[ASALT]

What is this stuff supposed to do?

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

a diet high in arachidonic acid is very unhealthy. not to mention that there are plenty of foods in the traditional american diet that are quite high in it as well as its precursors..

The animal-product-rich western diet does not provide enough AA to even meet our daily requirements for this EFA. AA precursors make up the rest, but are absolutely not sufficient to load the high levels of AA in tissue lipids we are with X-Factor. Such loading has been proven in studies to cause no adverse effects on blood lipids, and provided you are otherwise healthy and use it as directed, there is no reason to think it will be harmful.

I'll remind you also that we all routinely alter our hormone levels for the sake of muscle gain, accepting some small risk in the process. Steroid/PH use clearly entails more risk than taking in extra red meat or supplementing arachidonic acid. Your reaction is a little alarmist.

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

What is this stuff supposed to do?

To be short, it increases the body's injury and growth response to exercise. You will notice more soreness after your workouts, as if you stayed in the gym longer or worked out harder than you actually did. This will lead to more short term muscle breakdown, and greater long term protein synthesis and muscle growth.

There is not a supplement like it anywhere in the world - and I am confident in time it will be looked at as one of the most revolutionary achievements in the sports supplement industry.

 

[javtoss]

every were I looked said "coming soon"
when is it going to be released?
And is it going to work well with other supps, i am thinking of trying it with creatine and 1-test with maybe 4-ad or 4-test

any recomendations?

javtoss

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

every were I looked said "coming soon"
when is it going to be released?
And is it going to work well with other supps, i am thinking of trying it with creatine and 1-test with maybe 4-ad or 4-test

any recomendations?

javtoss

It has been released, but we are sold out at the moment. We blew through the first batch in a matter of only a couple of weeks.

It will work very well with other supps, just as kicking up your workout intensity would make your other supps more effective. Definitely good for PH stacks.

 

[ASALT]

Are there precautions or side effects that are similar to that of Prohormones?

 

[CytoBastian]

Theoretically, wouldn't it also improve results in most basic AAS stacks as well?

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Theoretically, wouldn't it also improve results in most basic AAS stacks as well?

Definitely.. If you take PH's, it would be very effective to take X-Factor during you on-cycle time. It will crank up workout intensity and soreness, which the hormones will really capitalize on.

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Are there precautions or side effects that are similar to that of Prohormones?

Yes, sort of... We recommend anyone with an inflammatory condition or cardiovascular problems not take it.. But if you are otherwise healthy, since it has no effects on blood lipids you should have little to worry about..

 

[Zoalord]

You are assuming that AA is a limiting factor in muscle growth.

Labrat and PA System at Avant Forums dealt with this and other issues thoroughly.

If anyone wants to see the how Bill and they argued/discussed, and what information was presented, feel free to check it out.

 

[CytoBastian]

If muscle soreness, extreme stretching and lactic acid in the muscle create the necessary environment to trigger IGF-1, MGF, prostaglandins and TGF release and muscle growth, and with X-Factor we are trying to increase the prostaglandins/muscle soreness, then by taking anadrol, would it lessen the results? My friend is on A-50 and I told him to hold off on the X-factor since he literally recovers from workouts in a few hours with no soreness whatsoever. I'm thinking that his body's hormones are already whack and he wouldn't get much out of it until his hormones level off. What do you think?

 

[ASALT]

Has anyone tried this yet?

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

Does the arachidonic acid cause greater protein synthesis independent of muscle inflamation or is this the result of the inflamation?

 

[FunkMasterFlex]

the inflammation is what causes the increase.......Also thank you Molecular nutrition for that wnderful advertisement in ESPN mag i think it was...talking about designer steroids in the suppliment world .....should help the FDA ban PH a lil quicker

 

[40butpumpin]

if the inflammation was localized i could see it, however, general inflammation in the human body could potentially be a VERY bad thing. i wonder how a c-reactive protein test result would look after taking this supplement.