modified first cycle

[faller]

For my first cycle I was planning on using 400 or 500 of test per week (depending upon type of test) straight through for 10 weeks. I was wondering though, if I were to drop the test to 200 or 250mg and add in something along the lines of var and/or primo, could I get results that would be easier to hang on to with fewer sides? I'm looking for modest gains with this cycle so can handle a reduction in mass added. Or should I just stick with test?

 

[sweed]

Test: cheaper. sides wont be bad at 4- 500, if any. Probably moe keepable gains a well. go with test as always with good pct

 

[nutsnack]

Test: cheaper. sides wont be bad at 4- 500, if any. Probably moe keepable gains a well. go with test as always with good pct

yes test only for first cycle is good.. keep track of the sides you do get for future planning cycles.

 

[nipples]

Like snack said, best first cycle you can do that way you can keep up with the sides and you'll know what your body reacts like.

 

[faller]

Test it is.
I've heard both to keep nolva on hand and to take during the cycle. Any opinions?
If I run 400 for 10 weeks, how much clomid is good for PCT?

 

[slat1]

Test it is.
I've heard both to keep nolva on hand and to take during the cycle. Any opinions?
If I run 400 for 10 weeks, how much clomid is good for PCT?

Good call on just running test.
Myself... I would use hcg/clomid... nolva on hand if needed.
best of luck

 

[mrdeeznuts]

agree... test only... front load at 1000mg first week and switch to 500mg for the next 9. run ur hcg, clomid pct. keep nolva on hand. use test ent!

 

[faller]

Why do you recommend the enth? I think 1gram is probably going to be a little too much for a first cycle. I would probably get decent results frontloading 500 and running 250, which I have also considered.

 

[nutsnack]

Why do you recommend the enth? I think 1gram is probably going to be a little too much for a first cycle. I would probably get decent results frontloading 500 and running 250, which I have also considered.

1g is probably a little high seeing that ure on ure first cycle but the front loading is a good idea.. i prefer nolv for pct and during cycle whether signs of gyno show or not because i'd rather be safe then sorry.. it's up to u just make sure u have some on hand!

 

[faller]

Nut- so you are running the nolva during the cycle? How much are you running? I thought doing that sounded like a good idea, but have heard of only a couple of people doing it so far.

 

[mrdeeznuts]

Why do you recommend the enth? I think 1gram is probably going to be a little too much for a first cycle. I would probably get decent results frontloading 500 and running 250, which I have also considered.

your probably correct i just like to do things big except women.... lol

for ur first see how 500 to 250 works out

second go for 1000 to 500

then ur third throw another AAS in

 

[nutsnack]

Nut- so you are running the nolva during the cycle? How much are you running? I thought doing that sounded like a good idea, but have heard of only a couple of people doing it so far.

i take 20mg a day.. most people dont do this cuz its a waste of money and just save the nolva until they have sides of gyno.. i like to be safe and dont want to see sides of gyno before so i take it throughout the cycle.. as for the enth.. stick with enthanate because the half life on the compound is long so you only have to stick once a week instead EOD (IE Prop)

 

[faller]

I think that's what I'm going to do also (I don't want to risk it). I assume you take 20mg each day of the cycle; do you stop during PCT? does it influence what you would use for PCT?
Thanks again bro

 

[gymratforlife]

I would just save the nolva for if you see sides bro its a waste of money to take it as a preventitive some people will never see signs of Gyno no matter how much gear they take.Its simple if your nips get sore or irritated and a little puffy just start taking it.

 

[nutsnack]

I think that's what I'm going to do also (I don't want to risk it). I assume you take 20mg each day of the cycle; do you stop during PCT? does it influence what you would use for PCT?
Thanks again bro

no i still do regular PCT.. nolva does not ALWAYS cure gyno and in the studies that it did cure the reoccurence was very high so i rather be safe then sorry whether people see it as a waste of money or not.. 20mg everyday of the cycle whether i shoot, lift or anything that day..