Mid Cycle-- Little problem need some Input

[Gixx600]

Im about 6 weeks into my Sust 250 and Winny oral cycle. Everything is going great, only thing im starting to notice are that My Hard Ons or Boners i guess you would day dont feel as hard as they did before the cycle. My libido is good, always in the mood but my Hard Ons just feel weak.

Im taking 700mg twice a week of the Sust and 75mg of the Winny a day. Just want your thoughts of what i could add to help that out.

 

[oxymoron]

Thats a stout dose of sust. U did mean 1.4 G a wk right?

Libido or not u still sound like ur shuttin down. What type of on-cycle support are u runnin?


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[Keith1]

Try splitting your sust shots up to a shot eod to keep blood levels more stable.
Also if your taking an AI then ur e2 levels r sky high which could be causing your hardon issue

 

[Gixx600]

wow my bad, its 700 a week. Ive read on multiple forums that winny was a Estrogen blocker itself??? Im sure that might be bs since everyone has their own story on some certain sites. Ive been being told that Adex or Forma stanzol might help????

 

[Gixx600]

Just taking the sust and winny atm, I never had any horrible side effects before. I do have adex and formastanzol on hand but dont wanna take it unless yall think it would help

 

[ppgfreak]

I'm interested to see how this works out. Hope the best for you. Only did 25mg of winny and never had a issue, not sure how 75mg would have effected me....

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[dylangemelli]

you should get some hcgenerate man... that will help with libido and preventing you from having a terrible pct because of shutdown... you don't want to go into pct with bb's for nuts and completely shut down man... if your starting to shut down, which is sounds like you are, get some and start it asap...

 

[stopstalking]

Pick up some hcgenerate and also some arimidex

 

[RADAR]

wow my bad, its 700 a week. Ive read on multiple forums that winny was a Estrogen blocker itself??? Im sure that might be bs since everyone has their own story on some certain sites. Ive been being told that Adex or Forma stanzol might help????

Winstrol is more effective in blocking Progestrone than Estrogen, you will need Adex for side from the test, also forma thru the cycle and into PCT would be better.
Be sure to have post cycle/unleashed with it!

 

[Essie]

Try splitting your sust shots up to a shot eod to keep blood levels more stable.
Also if your taking an AI then ur e2 levels r sky high which could be causing your hardon issue

No ... Sust is multiple estered ... So it has short half life, mid half life and loooong half life esters incorporated ... Actually you only need to pin Sust once a week. Pinning 700mg every Mon is sufficient to sustain you until the next pin following Mon and so forth and so forth. If you pin it too often, then you keep the short esters elevated, the mid esters start to build up and build up and when the long esters start kickingin you experience this BiG ASS SPIKE and THAT causes your levels to fluctuate too much, especially when those start reaching the end of half life cycle.

 

[dylangemelli]

No ... Sust is multiple estered ... So it has short half life, mid half life and loooong half life esters incorporated ... Actually you only need to pin Sust once a week. Pinning 700mg every Mon is sufficient to sustain you until the next pin following Mon and so forth and so forth. If you pin it too often, then you keep the short esters elevated, the mid esters start to build up and build up and when the long esters start kickingin you experience this BiG ASS SPIKE and THAT causes your levels to fluctuate too much, especially when those start reaching the end of half life cycle.

^^^^^^^^^^ fuck yeah! that's the kind of info i like to see!

 

[Essie]

^^^^^^^^^^ fuck yeah! that's the kind of info i like to see!

Lol!!!!! Thanks. I have had SOOOOOO MANY arguments over Sust ... And some of them actually went to blow-throwing and name calling ... And all because people don't (or don't care to) understand Sust properly ... And also because they don't fully grasp esters.

 

[dylangemelli]

Lol!!!!! Thanks. I have had SOOOOOO MANY arguments over Sust ... And some of them actually went to blow-throwing and name calling ... And all because people don't (or don't care to) understand Sust properly ... And also because they don't fully grasp esters.

its obviously the most complex but if you understand esters then it should be too difficult to grasp... very nice info that you gave though bro...

 

[stevesmi]

essie you are correct. sustanon should be injected once or twice a week tops. it isn't prop... one ester picks up after another.. people forget it has a 3 week ester which makes up a huge chunk of it. would it be wise to inject something with a 3 week ester EOD? the answer is NO, it would be pointless.

in any event your answers OP have been covered by everyone posting so I will parrot what they said on your other concerns.

so yes you should run hcgenerate during cycle, and yes when you run test you need an AI. winny most certainly is NOT an AI and anyone who told you that is flat out wrong. guys who say misleading and ignorant things like that are usually guys who stay on all year and know nothing about cycling and estrogen.

basically your nuts are turning into raisins and you don't want that. keep them functioning the whole way, makes for a much easier recovery

 

[Essie]

its obviously the most complex but if you understand esters then it should be too difficult to grasp... very nice info that you gave though bro...

Thanks Bro!