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IncredibleHulk
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This might help:
Q:
Can you tell me what you think about the supplement 5-methyl-7-methoxy
isoflavone? The companies that sell it say it a "non-hormonal anabolic". It's being
hyped quite a bit, but I have not heard anything good about it from people that
have used it and from what I hear there is no research behind it. My training
partner has taken it and said he felt like it was a waste of money. I'm still debating
whether or not to try it. What's the story?
A:
From reading your question it appears you have enough information to make a pretty sound
decision here. There's no research to support it. No one appears to be getting results from
it. Your own training partner says it's a waste of money. You know, you don't have to touch
a flame to find out whether or not you'll get burned.
I can't say anything positive about any isoflavone supplement from a muscle-building
perspective. They simply do not work in this regard and their negative effect on the
important testosterone conversion enzymes is detrimental. As far as something being a
"non-hormonal anabolic", anything that has even the most remote thing to do with muscle
growth outside of hormones can fall into this classification. Tap water is a "non-hormonal
anabolic". Table salt is a "non-hormonal anabolic". It's a nice play on words used to make
make something "sound" like more than it is. And in a case where there is no research, like
with 5-methyl-7-methoxy isoflavone, calling it this makes it sound good.
So far there has been no positive feedback on 5-methyl-7-methoxy isoflavone and with no
supportive scientific research I can't recommend it at this time. So the story is - where
5-methyl-7-methoxy isoflavone is concerned - there is no story.
I should point out one area of interest, as most isoflavones tend to inhibit
17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (the enzyme responsible for converting precursor
hormones into testosterone), isoflavones with the 7-methoxy or 8-hydroxyl groups on the A
ring do not inhibit this important enzyme. For whatever that's worth. This means nothing
from an anabolic perspective, but it does mean it shouldn't blunt testosterone output, at
least not from inhibiting 17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme activity. Other
isoflavones such as soy and chrysin will lower testosterone production.
Q:
Can you tell me what you think about the supplement 5-methyl-7-methoxy
isoflavone? The companies that sell it say it a "non-hormonal anabolic". It's being
hyped quite a bit, but I have not heard anything good about it from people that
have used it and from what I hear there is no research behind it. My training
partner has taken it and said he felt like it was a waste of money. I'm still debating
whether or not to try it. What's the story?
A:
From reading your question it appears you have enough information to make a pretty sound
decision here. There's no research to support it. No one appears to be getting results from
it. Your own training partner says it's a waste of money. You know, you don't have to touch
a flame to find out whether or not you'll get burned.
I can't say anything positive about any isoflavone supplement from a muscle-building
perspective. They simply do not work in this regard and their negative effect on the
important testosterone conversion enzymes is detrimental. As far as something being a
"non-hormonal anabolic", anything that has even the most remote thing to do with muscle
growth outside of hormones can fall into this classification. Tap water is a "non-hormonal
anabolic". Table salt is a "non-hormonal anabolic". It's a nice play on words used to make
make something "sound" like more than it is. And in a case where there is no research, like
with 5-methyl-7-methoxy isoflavone, calling it this makes it sound good.
So far there has been no positive feedback on 5-methyl-7-methoxy isoflavone and with no
supportive scientific research I can't recommend it at this time. So the story is - where
5-methyl-7-methoxy isoflavone is concerned - there is no story.
I should point out one area of interest, as most isoflavones tend to inhibit
17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (the enzyme responsible for converting precursor
hormones into testosterone), isoflavones with the 7-methoxy or 8-hydroxyl groups on the A
ring do not inhibit this important enzyme. For whatever that's worth. This means nothing
from an anabolic perspective, but it does mean it shouldn't blunt testosterone output, at
least not from inhibiting 17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme activity. Other
isoflavones such as soy and chrysin will lower testosterone production.
