May need to change cycle, opinions please

[ruggermu]

Well I met up with our coaches this year, just to talk about the season. I got to talking to one of the coaches I'm closer with about the cycle I was running through season. He told me he thought it was a bad idea. I trust him cause he's been doing it for a while. He told me even with dost I would still get to much bloat from deca and test to be able to run like we have to. So here is what he suggested let me know what you think

dbol 45/day 1-4 this was for preseason it's done already
sust like 500/week 1-15
Fina 80/ed 5-12
Halo 40/day 12-16

So what do you all think as compared to the one in my sig. And yes this will end up meaning I did deca for four weeks for nothing.

 

[chefbone]

That's a lot of sticks bro. But I think it would be a better "athletic" cycle for sure.

 

[ruggermu]

That's kinda what has me leaning torward it now. But what does everyonne think, halo or tbal at the end. Everyone let me know would you go halo or tbol

 

[ryan04]

I would run tbol at the end rather than halo, its a stronger substance and you'll get better gains.
Some people get shortness of breath with tren (fina) so that might be a bad choice (although I never had any problems with it). I think a better athletic cycle would be equipoise and test w/ tbol at the end. Equipoise increases red blood cells and is renowned for being a excellent drug for endurance athletes. You'll also have far fewer side effects from eq than tren.
If you've run tren before and didn't have any probs go with that or eq. If you've never run it then I'd go with eq. Tren can have some pretty nasty side effects that a lot of people find intolerable.

 

[swordfish151]

Well I met up with our coaches this year, just to talk about the season. I got to talking to one of the coaches I'm closer with about the cycle I was running through season. He told me he thought it was a bad idea. I trust him cause he's been doing it for a while. He told me even with dost I would still get to much bloat from deca and test to be able to run like we have to. So here is what he suggested let me know what you think

dbol 45/day 1-4 this was for preseason it's done already
sust like 500/week 1-15
Fina 80/ed 5-12
Halo 40/day 12-16

So what do you all think as compared to the one in my sig. And yes this will end up meaning I did deca for four weeks for nothing.

So your taking out the deca and adding the Halo...looks good to me!

 

[asianlover]

I would run tbol at the end rather than halo, its a stronger substance and you'll get better gains.
Some people get shortness of breath with tren (fina) so that might be a bad choice (although I never had any problems with it). I think a better athletic cycle would be equipoise and test w/ tbol at the end. Equipoise increases red blood cells and is renowned for being a excellent drug for endurance athletes. You'll also have far fewer side effects from eq than tren.
If you've run tren before and didn't have any probs go with that or eq. If you've never run it then I'd go with eq. Tren can have some pretty nasty side effects that a lot of people find intolerable.

yea eq was made for horse and fina was made for cows. i would get some opions
for people who are experieced with eq. i have hear it increases induriance which may be a very good thing for you espesialy if you were getting bigger and stronger while also getting faster.

 

[Makavelli]

The two AAS that I commonly will have my athletes take are EQ and Winstrol. EQ is great for endurance and winstrol is great for strength. Neither will cause a huge amount of muscle gain.

 

[ruggermu]

The two AAS that I commonly will have my athletes take are EQ and Winstrol. EQ is great for endurance and winstrol is great for strength. Neither will cause a huge amount of muscle gain.

My fear was without Deca the winny would dry my joints out to much. That's originally what pushed me to halo. Then I also remember how much of a reputation halo has for aggression, and that would be good seeing as I will start taking it around tournament time!!

Also I know EQ, would be great for conditioning and am planning ahead to use that for all the seasons to come, but it's really not an option at the moment.

 

[ruggermu]

Also, this is my first experience with halo. Is 40/ day too high. Should I go maybe 20? Anyone with experience please chime in. and K to all who have helped

 

[Ulter]

You're going to kill somebody if you're on tren and then halo for 4 weeks. I wouldn't do it. I assume you're not going to get tested. Sorry I don't know your sport but if you need endurance you can forget tren. You will lose considerable cardio capacity on it. I would suggest you use prop/eq and raise the eq in the last four weeks. That will give you some of the aggression you're looking for without torturing your liver with halo.

 

[Makavelli]

You could also try methyltest or anadrol on game days for aggression. That's what a lot of NFL linemen do.

 

[ruggermu]

Ok, so if halo after tren sounds like a bad idea, how about tbol. would that make more sense?

 

[Ulter]

What exactly are you looking for? Why are you intent on taking an oral at this point in your cycle. The purpose of an oral is to kick off a cycle. You've already done that. If you have a date that you are targeting, as you say your tournament, then you have plenty of time to prep with injectables that are going to do a much better job of giving you the strength without bloat you are looking for.

 

[ruggermu]

What exactly are you looking for? Why are you intent on taking an oral at this point in your cycle. The purpose of an oral is to kick off a cycle. You've already done that. If you have a date that you are targeting, as you say your tournament, then you have plenty of time to prep with injectables that are going to do a much better job of giving you the strength without bloat you are looking for.

yes that is true, but my reason for the oral is to run it 4 weeks, one of those being after last inject week. This way I could go straight to PCT. That it was alighning wioth the tournament was just icing on the cake when I thought about halo, it has nothing to do with the choice to use an oral.

 

[wayneboard1]

yea eq was made for horse and fina was made for cows. i would get some opions
for people who are experieced with eq. i have hear it increases induriance which may be a very good thing for you espesialy if you were getting bigger and stronger while also getting faster.

I am on week 10 of eq test currently and while I did cut out cardio for about 3 weeks there, I am back at it after workouts and LOVE it. I do have more endurance that is for sure and recover much faster as well.

 

[ruggermu]

I forgot to mention coach is also pushing me to up the dose to 750 on Sust. He's actually an X-teammate who helps out, but he basically runs the show.