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maxprime

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Hello.. new here to Elite. Will post my info and proposed cylclr. Please critique and let me know any changes you would suggest. Thx in advance!

me: 44 yrs old, 230 lbs, 6'5, 12-15% bf , 14 yrs training, 1 cycle per yr over last 12 yrs always w long acting esters running 10-14 weeks.

Proposed cycle:
Wks 1-10 test prop 100-150 M/W/F
Wks 1-6. mast prop 100. M W F
Wks 6-10 tren ace. 75-100. M W F
Wks 3-10 winny tabs 50 ed
PCT: hcg, clomid, tribulus
 
I would run the test a few weeks longer than the tren,
I would get some post cycle unleashed run hcg throughout and into pct


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maxprime said:
Hello.. new here to Elite. Will post my info and proposed cylclr. Please critique and let me know any changes you would suggest. Thx in advance!

me: 44 yrs old, 230 lbs, 6'5, 12-15% bf , 14 yrs training, 1 cycle per yr over last 12 yrs always w long acting esters running 10-14 weeks.

Proposed cycle:
Wks 1-10 test prop 100-150 M/W/F
Wks 1-6. mast prop 100. M W F
Wks 6-10 tren ace. 75-100. M W F
Wks 3-10 winny tabs 50 ed
PCT: hcg, clomid, tribulus
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run the mast throughout or with the tren at least,will have u hard as a rock

I like post cycle/unleashed combo for pct with low dose clomid and I would run the hcg 500ius 1-10 to prevent shutdown and make for a smoother recovery
 
maxprime said:
Hello.. new here to Elite. Will post my info and proposed cylclr. Please critique and let me know any changes you would suggest. Thx in advance!

me: 44 yrs old, 230 lbs, 6'5, 12-15% bf , 14 yrs training, 1 cycle per yr over last 12 yrs always w long acting esters running 10-14 weeks.

Proposed cycle:
Wks 1-10 test prop 100-150 M/W/F
Wks 1-6. mast prop 100. M W F
Wks 6-10 tren ace. 75-100. M W F
Wks 3-10 winny tabs 50 ed
PCT: hcg, clomid, tribulus
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Run the test 12 weeks, the mast 12 weeks, the tren 1-8, I dont reccomend whinny as its hell on the joints but its up to you. I would replace it with anavar at 50-70 mgs day for last 6 weeks.

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gymjunkie09 said:
run the mast throughout or with the tren at least,will have u hard as a rock

I like post cycle/unleashed combo for pct with low dose clomid and I would run the hcg 500ius 1-10 to prevent shutdown and make for a smoother recovery
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Running hcg every week for 10weeks is big no no no.
To much hcg actually suppresses. And your Hpta get used to it so much. that after it has no effect or benefits from hcg..

Even Nelson Montana said the same thing in his article if I'm right.

If you know what you talking about and been playing this game for long time once every 4weeks is the go.
 
Gearjunkie said:
Running hcg every week for 10weeks is big no no no.
To much hcg actually suppresses. And your Hpta get used to it so much. that after it has no effect or benefits from hcg..

Even Nelson Montana said the same thing in his article if I'm right.

If you know what you talking about and been playing this game for long time once every 4weeks is the go.
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so what would u recommend dosing hcg at every 4 weeks?
 
Hey I'm new 2 but nobody seem to want to give me any advice,, can anyone here give me some tips on how to loose weight?
I'm 20
I work 6 days a week ((real estate))
I'm 150cm tall
Currently weigh 58 killos
I want to get to at least 50 killos to be happy as I am going to have surgery in November I want to look decent for when it's done,,

PLEASE HELP ME!
Thanks :)
 
Kyia91 said:
Hey I'm new 2 but nobody seem to want to give me any advice,, can anyone here give me some tips on how to loose weight?
I'm 20
I work 6 days a week ((real estate))
I'm 150cm tall
Currently weigh 58 killos
I want to get to at least 50 killos to be happy as I am going to have surgery in November I want to look decent for when it's done,,

PLEASE HELP ME!
Thanks :)
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Diet and training, period. There are some great stickies, read them. We do not give AAS advice to anyone under the age of 21.
 
gymjunkie09 said:
so what would u recommend dosing hcg at every 4 weeks?
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Bro IMO 1500 twice a week
Every 4th week should be enough.

If you need proper article and study private message me.

For example: you use test for long period of time you stop seeing results.
Why? Cause your body an receptors get used to it so much and the adopt it.

Same with you exercise routine, you do the same training method for long period of time your body get used to it and you see no results.

Hcg if used every week shows negative impact on hpta.

It's my Personnel experience with everything cause I've learnt from my own mistakes.

You need to give your body a break
 
Ok guys --Yes, I agree on the HCG - was gonna only use it mid cycle and again 2 weeks after last test shot. i appreciate all the advice. I will let yall know how it goes. Cheers!!
 
One other question. I do have Bromocriptine coming, but aftter reading more on it.. sounds like it has some major sides all on its own. What is your oppinion- Bromo or Caber?? and do I run it along w the cycle or do I use only if prolactin gyno arises?
And if you have a better alternative than Bromo or Caber, please do inform me. Thx again for all help!!
 
Gearjunkie said:
Bro IMO 1500 twice a week
Every 4th week should be enough.

If you need proper article and study private message me.

For example: you use test for long period of time you stop seeing results.
Why? Cause your body an receptors get used to it so much and the adopt it.

Same with you exercise routine, you do the same training method for long period of time your body get used to it and you see no results.

Hcg if used every week shows negative impact on hpta.

It's my Personnel experience with everything cause I've learnt from my own mistakes.

You need to give your body a break
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But thats practically the same as running 250IU's twice a week bro, isnt it?
 
rich_89 said:
But thats practically the same as running 250IU's twice a week bro, isnt it?
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No!!

When you running twice a week you are doing it constantly. And that's where it shows negative impact.

I am not comparing the dosages bro

This doctor I know he is a speaclist in anti aging and hormone replacement therapy.

According to him it should be run once in a 6week to kick start.

But I still prefer running every 4th week.

Let me look up if I can find a proper study and I will post it up here for you bro
 
Read the last paragraph please





In the world of performance-enhancing drugs, hCG is increasingly used in combination with various anabolic androgenic steroid (AAS) cycles. As a result, hCG is included in some sports' illegal drug lists.

When exogenous AAS are put into the male body, natural negative-feedback loops cause the body to shut down its own production of testosterone via shutdown of the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis (HPGA). This causes testicular atrophy, among other things. hCG is commonly used during and after steroid cycles to maintain and restore testicular size as well as normal testosterone production.[28]

High levels of AASs, that mimic the body's natural testosterone, trigger the hypothalamus to shut down its production of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus. Without GnRH, the pituitary gland stops releasing luteinizing hormone (LH). LH normally travels from the pituitary via the blood stream to the testes, where it triggers the production and release of testosterone. Without LH, the testes shut down their production of testosterone.[29] In males, hCG helps restore and maintain testosterone production in the testes by mimicking LH and triggering the production and release of testosterone.

If hCG is used for too long and in too high a dose constantly,the resulting rise in natural testosterone will eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedback on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland.
 
maxprime said:
Excellent post and info gearjunkie!

Anyone got opinions or info on bromo, caber, any other altternatives??
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Caber is a dopamine inhibitor bro, not really an AI. It will need to be ran with tren and Deca all the way thru it. You may actually want to try prami bc it's easier to get ahold of. Either 3 are a must with tren tho!
 
Gearjunkie said:
If hCG is used for too long AND IN TOO HIGH A DOSE constantly,the resulting rise in natural testosterone will eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedback on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland.
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so if 1500 ius 2x in a week isn't considered a high dose then what is?
 
@jester72

I'm not asking for info on AAS I just want some info on good ways to loose weight, what the best foods to eat are & how much of it ect (the natural way) & good exercise positions to tone up, I will have a read of what you said & Im new here so I think I may have posts on the wrong forum it was the most recent one so I just wrote on it, I apologize if I have annoyed anyone
 
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