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johnboy
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its good and bad
its good and bad
Its good because marijuana use lowers your blood pressure so obviously when you are on a cycle your blood pressure is high. But then its bad because of all the resin/tar it puts in your lungs.
personally, I smoke it to lower blood pressure. I don't smoke that much at all post cycle.
its good and bad
Its good because marijuana use lowers your blood pressure so obviously when you are on a cycle your blood pressure is high. But then its bad because of all the resin/tar it puts in your lungs.
personally, I smoke it to lower blood pressure. I don't smoke that much at all post cycle.
rahulkohli
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you have persuaded me. bring me a bong
liquidmuscle
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my girlfreind is a pot head seriously she smokes weed before school, after school going to work during her break at workand driving home from work and even when we leave the gym, now with her smoking that much weed of course i hit it but only after a intense day at the gym, i personally havent noticed any crazy sides from mixing gear with pot but sometimes i get real high and i feel like i am going to faint,,,could be the mixture of the 2 but i think its that KILLA from the third coast!!!
rippedtrojan
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read my sig line...
actually i don't do it that often, but i do like to do it. it feels good after an intense workout actually. right now i gots some white widow, nice high.
actually i don't do it that often, but i do like to do it. it feels good after an intense workout actually. right now i gots some white widow, nice high.
actually smoking pot increases your blood preasure, not lower it. what im looking for is info on blood levels of androgens after you smoke, increased risk of estrogen build up, and heart rythymn disturbance. someone has more info on what i just posted i would hope. where are the top dogs not the chiuahuahs!
rippedforce50
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a couple of guys I know like to smoke during cycle because it allows them to eat more. But it seems to me that they get a lot fatter when smoking as opposed to not when on cycle.
40butpumpin
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I wish I could find some, I love the stuff. I better get over this respiratory infection first though.
liquidmuscle
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40butpumpin said:
cant find weed where the hell do you live...??? Under a rock?
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johnboy
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sorry I may have been a little off it says a marijuana-like substance
read it here or read it here http://www.norml.org/news/archives/01-07-05.shtml
Body's Natural 'Cannabis' May Play Role in Lowering Blood Pressure
Bethesda, Maryland: A marijuana-like substance that occurs naturally in the body may play a significant role in lowering blood pressure, according to research published in the new issue of Nature Medicine.
Researchers at the National Institute of Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse report that the endogenous cannabinoid known as anandamide acts on the blood vessel walls to cause dilation and allow blood to flow more freely. In animal studies, scientists found an association between rats with elevated levels of anandamide and low blood pressure. Researchers raised blood pressure in test subjects by blocking the effects of anandamide.
Scientists said that the findings may offer new approaches for treating patients with advanced cirrhosis, who often suffer from high blood pressure and ruptured blood vessels.
"This preliminary research indicates that marijuana and cannabinoids may someday play a role in the treatment of a range of cardiovascular diseases," NORML Executive Director R. Keith Stroup said.
read it here or read it here http://www.norml.org/news/archives/01-07-05.shtml
Body's Natural 'Cannabis' May Play Role in Lowering Blood Pressure
Bethesda, Maryland: A marijuana-like substance that occurs naturally in the body may play a significant role in lowering blood pressure, according to research published in the new issue of Nature Medicine.
Researchers at the National Institute of Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse report that the endogenous cannabinoid known as anandamide acts on the blood vessel walls to cause dilation and allow blood to flow more freely. In animal studies, scientists found an association between rats with elevated levels of anandamide and low blood pressure. Researchers raised blood pressure in test subjects by blocking the effects of anandamide.
Scientists said that the findings may offer new approaches for treating patients with advanced cirrhosis, who often suffer from high blood pressure and ruptured blood vessels.
"This preliminary research indicates that marijuana and cannabinoids may someday play a role in the treatment of a range of cardiovascular diseases," NORML Executive Director R. Keith Stroup said.
40butpumpin
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liquidmuscle said:
Well, I guess you could say I'm out of the weed loop. I mean I'm 41. Would you trust a 41 year old if he asked you about weed? I actually tried it not too long ago and I got accused of being a narc. I'm in pretty good shape but I don't look like a narc! The stuff relaxes me like nothing else. With 4 kids under 10, believe me you need all the relaxin' you can get.
liquidmuscle
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didnt say it to flame bro cuz i have a female friend of mine and she always calls me to hook her up and she has 3 kids, 1 in highschool 1 in junior high and 1 in elementary talk about calming your nerves
liquidmuscle
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Fumunda said:
WRONG! Hell i would make Brittney Spears jealous if that were the case...
40butpumpin
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liquidmuscle said:
No sweat, bro. I know EXACTLY where she's coming from. I have *3* girls and 1 boy so I'm in deep doo-doo!
On a serious note, I was looking into that vaporizer thing for when I do eventually find someone. It looks great for getting all of the benefits without the negatives.
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johnboy
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I don't know anybody who can't get marijuana
That shit is easy as hell to get anymore. Shit you can even buy it from the crack dealers downtown. I have had them offer me crack,weed, heroin. Of course I said "hell no" but I do like a "J" every once in a while.
That shit is easy as hell to get anymore. Shit you can even buy it from the crack dealers downtown. I have had them offer me crack,weed, heroin. Of course I said "hell no" but I do like a "J" every once in a while.
whats up with all the idiots who have never smoked who claim it will give you gyno. I mean just because u dont smoke and its wrong because u dont do it for whatever confused ethical reason u have doesnt mean u should lie about its effects. They have never been able to prove it raises estrogen levels or lowers testosterone levels. They also said if it does raise estrogen levels it is an extremely insignificant amount. Afterall if the theory that weed increases estrogen levels it would be TRUE ABOUT MOST OF THE PLANTS WE EAT IN GENERAL.
padycakes_16
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lets keep the posts coming
cant say i smoke pot and i am in my own zome
but i have alot of friends that look like this, some 4 joints a day they do!!! 
cant say i smoke pot and i am in my own zome
but i have alot of friends that look like this, some 4 joints a day they do!!! 40butpumpin said:
Well, I guess you could say I'm out of the weed loop. I mean I'm 41. Would you trust a 41 year old if he asked you about weed? I actually tried it not too long ago and I got accused of being a narc. I'm in pretty good shape but I don't look like a narc! The stuff relaxes me like nothing else. With 4 kids under 10, believe me you need all the relaxin' you can get.
Yo bro! Check your PM Box. And look and my location. Then Check out the Mary Jane thread in the Chat and covo section and you'll see me hitting the pipe. I'll hook you up with a smoke
(3) NEW STUDY FINDS POT DOESN'T LOWER TESTOSTERONE
A new study by Dr. Robert Block at the University of
Iowa disputes the commonly held notion that marijuana alters
the level of testosterone and other sex hormones.
The study contradicted a widely publicized 1974 study
by Dr. R.C. Kolodony, which reported decreased testosterone
levels in men who smoked marijuana chronically.
The U. of Iowa study found that chronic marijuana use
had no effect on testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle
stimulating hormone, prolactin and cortisol in men or women.
Noting that six other studies had failed to show
lowered testosterone levels in men, Dr. Block concluded: "It
appears that marijuana, even heavy use of the kind that's
typical in the United States, doesn't alter testosterone levels."
However, he cautioned that heavy use might have other
adverse effects, including "possible effects on reproductive
function and mild, selective cognitive impairments associated
with heavy, chronic use."
Block's study is published in Drug and Alcohol
Dependence, Vol. 28: 121-8 (1991).
A new study by Dr. Robert Block at the University of
Iowa disputes the commonly held notion that marijuana alters
the level of testosterone and other sex hormones.
The study contradicted a widely publicized 1974 study
by Dr. R.C. Kolodony, which reported decreased testosterone
levels in men who smoked marijuana chronically.
The U. of Iowa study found that chronic marijuana use
had no effect on testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle
stimulating hormone, prolactin and cortisol in men or women.
Noting that six other studies had failed to show
lowered testosterone levels in men, Dr. Block concluded: "It
appears that marijuana, even heavy use of the kind that's
typical in the United States, doesn't alter testosterone levels."
However, he cautioned that heavy use might have other
adverse effects, including "possible effects on reproductive
function and mild, selective cognitive impairments associated
with heavy, chronic use."
Block's study is published in Drug and Alcohol
Dependence, Vol. 28: 121-8 (1991).
Hormones Chronic marijuana use has not been found to alter testosterone or other sex hormone levels, despite the conclusions of Dr. R.C. Kolodony's 1974 study. Seven similar studies have been performed since then, the most recent by a Dr. Robert Block at the University of Iowa, and none have reproduced Kolodony's results. In contrast, heavy alcohol use is known to lower these same testosterone levels. Reproductive Damage No trustworthy study has ever shown that marijuana use damages the reproductive system, or causes chromosome breakage. Dr. Gabriel Nahas reached the opposite conclusion in his experiments performed in the early 1980s, but did so in part using the in vitro (i.e., in test tubes and petrii dishes) cells of rhesus monkeys. His rather unjustified claim that these changes would also occur in human bodies in vivo (in the body) was criticized by his colleagues and, in 1983, he renounced his own results. Studies of actual human populations have failed to demonstrate that marijuana adversely affects the reproductive system. Wu et al. found in 1988 a correlation between marijuana use and low sperm counts in human males. But this is misleading because (1) a decrease in sperm count has not been shown to have a negative effect on fertility, and (2) the sperm count returned to normal levels after marijuana use had ceased. Claims that marijuana use may impair hormone production, menstrual cycles, or fertility in females are both unproven and unfounded. The Immune System Studies in which lab rats were injected with extremely large quantities of THC have found that marijuana (in such unrealistically huge quantities) does have an "immunosuppressive effect" in those lab rats, in that it temporarily shuts off certain cells in the liver called lymphocytes and macrophages. These macrophages are useful in fighting off bacterial, not viral, infections. But this is only for the duration of intoxication. There also exists some evidence that marijuana metabolites stay in the lungs for up to seven months after smoking has ceased, possibly affecting the immune system of the lungs (but not by turning the cells off). This said, doctors and researchers are still not sure that the immune system is actually negatively affected in realistic situations since there are no numbers to support the idea. In fact, three studies showed that THC may have actually stimulated the immune system in the people studied. Birth Defects Unlike alcohol, cocaine, and tobacco, studies show that there exists no evident link between prenatal use of marijuana and birth defects or fetal alcohol syndrome in humans. In fact, marijuana use during the third trimester has been found to have a positive impact on birthweight. It is known that Delta-9-THC does enter the placenta, so mothers are advised against consuming large quantities.
TrueCowboy
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I did a 10 week dbol/test/fina cycle and gained 20 lbs. and lost 5= 15 lb net gain. I did clomid and started a briding cycle of EQ at 200 mg/week for 8 weeks. I also started smoking pot and have pretty much gotten high every night for the last 4 weeks. It's been 4 weeks and I have gained what I lost and then 5 more lbs. The EQ + WEED seem to be an awsome appettite stimulant for me. The gains seem to be mostly quality gains also. A heavy 10 week cycle put 15 lbs. on me, and a 4 week cycle (as of now) put 10 lbs on me. Therefore, I think it is a benefit to me -- as far as my workout program goes anyway. Furthermore, I don't really see any further sides either.
by vaporizer, do you guys mean water bong??
And about the hormone levels, is bullshit, reason why chronics ;ook like chicks is because they do nothing all day besides play hack/ look at arnold at the end of "pumping iron" taking some hits, fuckers sucking his lungs out. Now if the "best" was obvious user, why are we paranoid this shit will be like some crazy ass estrogen booster??
painly
stop worrying and start eating your girlfriends cotex./
And about the hormone levels, is bullshit, reason why chronics ;ook like chicks is because they do nothing all day besides play hack/ look at arnold at the end of "pumping iron" taking some hits, fuckers sucking his lungs out. Now if the "best" was obvious user, why are we paranoid this shit will be like some crazy ass estrogen booster??
painly
stop worrying and start eating your girlfriends cotex./
Marihuana inhibits dihydrotestosterone binding to the androgen receptor
check out this study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6249575&dopt=Abstract
check out this study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6249575&dopt=Abstract
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JC Grifter
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The only really good thing i can think about would be the increased hunger
I love to smoke urb. I used to do it 3 - 4x's a day, had to cut back though I was getting way to lazy and forgetting alot. However if you do it in moderation its a great thing.
I dont see how it lowers test levels because when I smoke I get hornier than when I'm sober. And people talking baout it giving you gyno thats such bull, I know ALOT of stoners and none of them have gyno. The BP thing on the other hand, I think it does increase BP but who knows. I could go on and on about smoking. We should all burn one right now!
I dont see how it lowers test levels because when I smoke I get hornier than when I'm sober. And people talking baout it giving you gyno thats such bull, I know ALOT of stoners and none of them have gyno. The BP thing on the other hand, I think it does increase BP but who knows. I could go on and on about smoking. We should all burn one right now!
Black Hamma
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yo 40butpimpin, if you live in albany there is a lot of really good pot coming from indian reservations and from canada. Trust me I know.
I smoke a lot, the only thing is I never smoke before I lift...just doesnt fly with me.
I smoke a lot, the only thing is I never smoke before I lift...just doesnt fly with me.
HomerJsimpson
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Weed!
ProMed
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Your only two posts on this board are "Weed!" and "I Love Weed!" in very old threads... what's up with that?
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/search.php?searchid=2868090
Sounds like me as of a few weeks ago damn near wwith a degree.
I did cyclotren/havoc prohormones with a good pct and smoked every day on cycle.
I gained 15 lbs and was under 10%bf. lifts were through the roof. slept better. ate better and i felt more relaxed and calmed the roid rage.
Ive gotten great gains blazing buds and blunts
I did cyclotren/havoc prohormones with a good pct and smoked every day on cycle.
I gained 15 lbs and was under 10%bf. lifts were through the roof. slept better. ate better and i felt more relaxed and calmed the roid rage.
Ive gotten great gains blazing buds and blunts
my girlfreind is a pot head seriously she smokes weed before school, after school going to work during her break at workand driving home from work and even when we leave the gym, now with her smoking that much weed of course i hit it but only after a intense day at the gym, i personally havent noticed any crazy sides from mixing gear with pot but sometimes i get real high and i feel like i am going to faint,,,could be the mixture of the 2 but i think its that KILLA from the third coast!!!
SwampDonkey
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HA! Yeah weed is fine, even helpful. Do it AFTER your workout bc it tends to make you lazy. Late in the day is great seeing as it has proven appetite stimulating properties. Smoke a bowl, fill up on clean food and protein, and doze with a stomach full of everything your body needs to recover while you sleep.
Anti-estrogen meds may be a good idea, never actually seen any effects such as gyno occur with even heavy smokers / AAS users but sounds like decent insurance.
OH and remember moderation.....
Anti-estrogen meds may be a good idea, never actually seen any effects such as gyno occur with even heavy smokers / AAS users but sounds like decent insurance.
OH and remember moderation.....
