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Cant take credit for this. A buddy of mine typed this up and makes it personally for me. Works just as good or if not better then injectable. I know its properly dosed and not under dosed you get from some og these UGL's trying to save a buck.
Default Topicals
It seems there isn't a post on making topicals. Since I'm knee-deep in it, and receiving numerous PMs about how to make them, I thought I'd put my thoughts in a seperate post.
I've used both VanPen and PHLOJel Ultra (PJU) as vehicles and the PJU is superior to the VanPen, so I will only address PJU. I seem to be getting a 60% to 70% absorption efficiency. This is a very educated guess on the absorption, with blood work to back it up, albeit still a guess. Using the PJU is as easy as measuring out the powder and vehicle, and mixing. 1-mL PJU is very close to weighing 1-g. It's so close, that it's not worth using anything other than 1.
The powder has a very different displacement when mixed as a topical vs. injectable. The list will grow as I experiment further, but here is what I have so far:
Trenbolone acetate (TA) 8.3%
Drostanolone propionate (DP) 5%
Testosterone base 5%
Therefore, to make 60-mL of 100-mg/mL of TA, you would need 6-g TA and 55.02-g PJU:
Weigh the TA and put into a mortar. Some people say to add in an additional 10% for waste, for some damn reason. This thinking is ludacris. There's nothing to get wasted, so save your powder. Using a pestle, grind the powder to a very fine consistancy. I've noticed it's easier to use a soft touch when grinding it down. If you press hard, the powder gets stuck to the sides and makes the powder clumpy. Using a cake frosting spatula (~1.5" wide), scrape the powder from the sides and bottom of the mortar and the bottom of the pestle.
Weigh out approximately 10-g of the PJU and very carefully place into the mortar. If you haphazardly drop the PJU into the powder, you'll have a dust cloud of TA. Using your spatula, slowly and carefully begin pressing the PJU into the sides of the mortar, tritrating the TA with the PJU. Once you've acheived a consistant paste, measure an additional ~10-g PJU. Repeat the tritrating process above. Repeat this until you have the appropriate amount of PJU added.
Remove the plunger from the rear of the syringe. Using the spatula (I use the corner side, not the radius), slowly start adding the solution to the rear of the syringe. After every addition, rotate the syringe, so it doesn't fall to one side. Also, after the addition of a small amount of solution, place your finger over the front end of the syringe and gently press the solution into the syringe with the spatula. This will help get rid of any air bubbles you have introduced and create an impression in the middle to add more solution.
Once you have added all the solution to the syringe, gently press the plunger back into the syringe. There is a lip on the inside and you'll feel it pass that. Holding the syringe upright (with the front pointing up), hold your finger over the front end and press the plunger up. Release the pressure from the plunger, then release your finger from the front of the syringe. You'll notice the solution move up some. After a few times doing this, lightly tap the syringe against the table while rotating it. This will help flatten out the solution. You don't want the solution skewed to one side, because you'll trap air when you're finished. Continue this until the solution is at the front end of the syringe. It's a bit slow doing it this way, but I have yet to have air in my syringes.
I let my solutions sit for a few days before use. If I don't, it feels a little gritty the first few days. Dispense the appropriate amount, rub in, and enjoy the effects of pain-free AAS!
Substitute the appropriate displacement factor for the compound you intend to use. For example, for 60-mL of 100-mg/mL of DP, you'd use 6-g DP and 57-g PJU.
The next run I do, I'll take photographs to give you a better idea of how easy this process is
Default Topicals
It seems there isn't a post on making topicals. Since I'm knee-deep in it, and receiving numerous PMs about how to make them, I thought I'd put my thoughts in a seperate post.
I've used both VanPen and PHLOJel Ultra (PJU) as vehicles and the PJU is superior to the VanPen, so I will only address PJU. I seem to be getting a 60% to 70% absorption efficiency. This is a very educated guess on the absorption, with blood work to back it up, albeit still a guess. Using the PJU is as easy as measuring out the powder and vehicle, and mixing. 1-mL PJU is very close to weighing 1-g. It's so close, that it's not worth using anything other than 1.
The powder has a very different displacement when mixed as a topical vs. injectable. The list will grow as I experiment further, but here is what I have so far:
Trenbolone acetate (TA) 8.3%
Drostanolone propionate (DP) 5%
Testosterone base 5%
Therefore, to make 60-mL of 100-mg/mL of TA, you would need 6-g TA and 55.02-g PJU:
Weigh the TA and put into a mortar. Some people say to add in an additional 10% for waste, for some damn reason. This thinking is ludacris. There's nothing to get wasted, so save your powder. Using a pestle, grind the powder to a very fine consistancy. I've noticed it's easier to use a soft touch when grinding it down. If you press hard, the powder gets stuck to the sides and makes the powder clumpy. Using a cake frosting spatula (~1.5" wide), scrape the powder from the sides and bottom of the mortar and the bottom of the pestle.
Weigh out approximately 10-g of the PJU and very carefully place into the mortar. If you haphazardly drop the PJU into the powder, you'll have a dust cloud of TA. Using your spatula, slowly and carefully begin pressing the PJU into the sides of the mortar, tritrating the TA with the PJU. Once you've acheived a consistant paste, measure an additional ~10-g PJU. Repeat the tritrating process above. Repeat this until you have the appropriate amount of PJU added.
Remove the plunger from the rear of the syringe. Using the spatula (I use the corner side, not the radius), slowly start adding the solution to the rear of the syringe. After every addition, rotate the syringe, so it doesn't fall to one side. Also, after the addition of a small amount of solution, place your finger over the front end of the syringe and gently press the solution into the syringe with the spatula. This will help get rid of any air bubbles you have introduced and create an impression in the middle to add more solution.
Once you have added all the solution to the syringe, gently press the plunger back into the syringe. There is a lip on the inside and you'll feel it pass that. Holding the syringe upright (with the front pointing up), hold your finger over the front end and press the plunger up. Release the pressure from the plunger, then release your finger from the front of the syringe. You'll notice the solution move up some. After a few times doing this, lightly tap the syringe against the table while rotating it. This will help flatten out the solution. You don't want the solution skewed to one side, because you'll trap air when you're finished. Continue this until the solution is at the front end of the syringe. It's a bit slow doing it this way, but I have yet to have air in my syringes.
I let my solutions sit for a few days before use. If I don't, it feels a little gritty the first few days. Dispense the appropriate amount, rub in, and enjoy the effects of pain-free AAS!
Substitute the appropriate displacement factor for the compound you intend to use. For example, for 60-mL of 100-mg/mL of DP, you'd use 6-g DP and 57-g PJU.
The next run I do, I'll take photographs to give you a better idea of how easy this process is
