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Making Anavar

JAYMAN014

JAYMAN014

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Say I had access to cheap Anavar powder, has or does anyone have any insight into making paper, pills, or any other usable form of powder var, Could I just take 50mg powder and disolve it under my tongue and get the same results as papervar? I have checked into some differant sites that talk about this but most involved other forms of gear.

Karma will be in line for those who can offer solid answers to these questions,
 
no you couldnt take 50mg and dissolve it under your tongue. measuring out 50mg is a mission. you would need to dilute it so you could actually dose yourself effectively

of course you have a prescription for this dont you :)

i could direct you to a guide of sorts but mods tend to get pissed off when i post links to other boards

pm me if you like
 
GoldenDelicious said:
no you couldnt take 50mg and dissolve it under your tongue. measuring out 50mg is a mission. you would need to dilute it so you could actually dose yourself effectively

of course you have a prescription for this dont you :)

i could direct you to a guide of sorts but mods tend to get pissed off when i post links to other boards

pm me if you like
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I assume he's got a good scale...if so, he should be able to measure that out.
 
That works the same? Why does everyone not do this? I would just get a scoop spoon that measured 50mg and scoop out of my pile and through it on the tongue and I'm good the same as paper?
If so this is great my cost just dropped 50%
 
JAYMAN014 said:
That works the same? Why does everyone not do this? I would just get a scoop spoon that measured 50mg and scoop out of my pile and through it on the tongue and I'm good the same as paper?
If so this is great my cost just dropped 50%
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Why wouldn't this work? What else do you need aside from the pure ox powder? Fillers to make tabs...there's no point. If you have the active ingredient, that's all you need.
 
okay go ahead and measure out 50 mgs then

i suppose this type of drug allows a fair sort of error, but still.. bad habit.. just dilute it, its not terribly hard
 
GoldenDelicious said:
okay go ahead and measure out 50 mgs then

i suppose this type of drug allows a fair sort of error, but still.. bad habit.. just dilute it, its not terribly hard
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Why is it a bad habit? If you can weigh it out, there's no need for anything else...and anything else is just adding a hassle. If you have 50mg of pure active ingredient in front of you, why would you want to do anything but throw it in your mouth?
 
Alrigtht I agree that I can just through it in my mouth but how and where do I go to get what I need to seperate each dose from a large portion of anavar powder?
 
Bulldog_10 said:

Why is it a bad habit? If you can weigh it out, there's no need for anything else...and anything else is just adding a hassle. If you have 50mg of pure active ingredient in front of you, why would you want to do anything but throw it in your mouth?
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so get an awsome scale (have an awsome source)

and put it on a tea spoon and drop in the hatch? and wash down with water?
 
Bulldog_10 said:

Why is it a bad habit? If you can weigh it out, there's no need for anything else...and anything else is just adding a hassle. If you have 50mg of pure active ingredient in front of you, why would you want to do anything but throw it in your mouth?
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yes but can you measure it out accurately?

most scales will measure out to the nearest .01 grams (if youre lucky) so even if you did manage to get it to read 0.05g (50mg) you might in fact only have 45mg or as much as 55mg

when i say bad habit i mean being sloppy with your meds. really, theres no need for it.

do it once, do it right. dilute it so you can measure out a decent amount and minimise error fluctuations
 
I thought 17aas were supposed to be taken 2-3 times/day. What is so hard about diluting it, and then taking it several times throughout the day? Also, you must have a really good scale to be accurate to .01g
 
If you know the total amount in mg it's easy.

5000mg anavar powder
100ml alkohol, bacardy, vodka or whatever.

Mix

Result: 50mg/ml (5000/100)

2500mg powder
50ml alhohol

2500/50ml = 50mg/ml

and so on..
 
wouldnt do that

ok fine the link is on cutting edge muscle where i told a guy roughly how to dilute powder with more powder for maximum stability

ill post a decent guide later, when i wake up

JAYMAN014, it all just clicked into place. i was mixed up. you must have though WTF are the links i sent you :D

chat later about it, i need sleep
 
this is what you do (very rough. extremely rough. but itll do.)

you will need a mortar and pestle (small ceramic) and probably some lactose (pretty much all the drug companies use lactose) as well as some digital scales (expensive ones)

when you grind powders up using a mortar and pestle, you only put a little in at once. multiple batches are always needed, unless youre only doing 4 or 5 caps worth (if youre making caps).

put a little of your drug powder in the mortar and pestle. grind to a fine powder. ideally you would use a seive afterwards, but screw it, where the hell are you guys going to get calibrated seives.

remove the resultant powder, put it somewhere.

put a little more drug powder in the mortar. repeat.

keep repeating until you hve ground up all your drug powder.

put some lactose in the mortar and pestle. grind it. take it out. put it somewhere.

repeat until, once again, you have ground up all your lactose in small batches.

to mix them together, dont just dump them all in there and mix. youll get a mixture as homogenous as rocky road.

weigh out all you powders in correct proportions. lets say you want a 5% w/w powder of your drug, and you have 5g of drug (already ground out as above). you then need 95g of lactose.

once this is mixed, clearly youll have a 5% mix of drug in lactose.

put a small amount of drug and lactose in the mortar. grind it up for ages, until it is mixed up very well. take it out. put it somewhere. repeat with fresh drug, fresh lactose. keep going until you have used up all the drug.

you should now have a small pile of mixed drug/lactose, and a big pile of as yet unused lactose. repeat the whole process, this time using the drug/lactose mix, and lactose.

do that over and over until all the lactose is used up.

thats it. youre done.

deciding how much lactose to use is common sense. what you want is a final concentration which, per serve, is neither too much or too little to consume in one go. you dont want to dilute it too much, or youll end up needing to eat 10grams of lactose to get a serve of drug. neither do you want it too concentrated, otherwise a small screw up in measuring out a serve will result in a huge difference in dose.

thats how a bodgy bastard back yarder would dilute their powders. going into more detail is pointless because people just dont follow instructions to the letter and will cut it down to this anyway.

any people out there who want more detail but who arent doing anything illegal post here and ill get back to you

cheers
 
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GoldenDelicious said:
this is what you do (very rough. extremely rough. but itll do.)

you will need a mortar and pestle (small ceramic) and probably some lactose (pretty much all the drug companies use lactose) as well as some digital scales (expensive ones)

when you grind powders up using a mortar and pestle, you only put a little in at once. multiple batches are always needed, unless youre only doing 4 or 5 caps worth (if youre making caps).

put a little of your drug powder in the mortar and pestle. grind to a fine powder. ideally you would use a seive afterwards, but screw it, where the hell are you guys going to get calibrated seives.

remove the resultant powder, put it somewhere.

put a little more drug powder in the mortar. repeat.

keep repeating until you hve ground up all your drug powder.

put some lactose in the mortar and pestle. grind it. take it out. put it somewhere.

repeat until, once again, you have ground up all your lactose in small batches.

to mix them together, dont just dump them all in there and mix. youll get a mixture as homogenous as rocky road.

weigh out all you powders in correct proportions. lets say you want a 5% w/w powder of your drug, and you have 5g of drug (already ground out as above). you then need 95g of lactose.

once this is mixed, clearly youll have a 5% mix of drug in lactose.

put a small amount of drug and lactose in the mortar. grind it up for ages, until it is mixed up very well. take it out. put it somewhere. repeat with fresh drug, fresh lactose. keep going until you have used up all the drug.

you should now have a small pile of mixed drug/lactose, and a big pile of as yet unused lactose. repeat the whole process, this time using the drug/lactose mix, and lactose.

do that over and over until all the lactose is used up.

thats it. youre done.

deciding how much lactose to use is common sense. what you want is a final concentration which, per serve, is neither too much or too little to consume in one go. you dont want to dilute it too much, or youll end up needing to eat 10grams of lactose to get a serve of drug. neither do you want it too concentrated, otherwise a small screw up in measuring out a serve will result in a huge difference in dose.

thats how a bodgy bastard back yarder would dilute their powders. going into more detail is pointless because people just dont follow instructions to the letter and will cut it down to this anyway.

any people out there who want more detail but who arent doing anything illegal post here and ill get back to you

cheers
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How would you liquefy it?
 
GoldenDelicious said:
this is what you do (very rough. extremely rough. but itll do.)

you will need a mortar and pestle (small ceramic) and probably some lactose (pretty much all the drug companies use lactose) as well as some digital scales (expensive ones)

when you grind powders up using a mortar and pestle, you only put a little in at once. multiple batches are always needed, unless youre only doing 4 or 5 caps worth (if youre making caps).

put a little of your drug powder in the mortar and pestle. grind to a fine powder. ideally you would use a seive afterwards, but screw it, where the hell are you guys going to get calibrated seives.

remove the resultant powder, put it somewhere.

put a little more drug powder in the mortar. repeat.

keep repeating until you hve ground up all your drug powder.

put some lactose in the mortar and pestle. grind it. take it out. put it somewhere.

repeat until, once again, you have ground up all your lactose in small batches.

to mix them together, dont just dump them all in there and mix. youll get a mixture as homogenous as rocky road.

weigh out all you powders in correct proportions. lets say you want a 5% w/w powder of your drug, and you have 5g of drug (already ground out as above). you then need 95g of lactose.

once this is mixed, clearly youll have a 5% mix of drug in lactose.

put a small amount of drug and lactose in the mortar. grind it up for ages, until it is mixed up very well. take it out. put it somewhere. repeat with fresh drug, fresh lactose. keep going until you have used up all the drug.

you should now have a small pile of mixed drug/lactose, and a big pile of as yet unused lactose. repeat the whole process, this time using the drug/lactose mix, and lactose.

do that over and over until all the lactose is used up.

thats it. youre done.

deciding how much lactose to use is common sense. what you want is a final concentration which, per serve, is neither too much or too little to consume in one go. you dont want to dilute it too much, or youll end up needing to eat 10grams of lactose to get a serve of drug. neither do you want it too concentrated, otherwise a small screw up in measuring out a serve will result in a huge difference in dose.

thats how a bodgy bastard back yarder would dilute their powders. going into more detail is pointless because people just dont follow instructions to the letter and will cut it down to this anyway.

any people out there who want more detail but who arent doing anything illegal post here and ill get back to you

cheers
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Yeah...that's alot easier than just measuring it out on a scale and throwing it in your mouth...I just don't get why you guys aren making this so complicated. If you can't measure out .05 grams...then just measure out .1 grams and cut it in half...it doesn't have to be EXACTLY 50mg...diluting it won't give you EXACTLY 50mg either. It doesn't make a difference to me how you do it...but I'd try not to overcomplicate things.
 
Bulldog_10 said:


Yeah...that's alot easier than just measuring it out on a scale and throwing it in your mouth...I just don't get why you guys aren making this so complicated. If you can't measure out .05 grams...then just measure out .1 grams and cut it in half...it doesn't have to be EXACTLY 50mg...diluting it won't give you EXACTLY 50mg either. It doesn't make a difference to me how you do it...but I'd try not to overcomplicate things.
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this method will give you 51mg or 49mg not 45 or 55, and thats if you scales are good

i think youd be silly to trust a scale at the outer limit of its accuracy to dose a drug with potentially far reaching ramifications

up to you tho
 
I think a point Golden is trying to make is not getting into bad habits if you are going to measure out your own shit. I.E., let's PRETEND after doing his var by not carefully measuring it out, he decides to do a DNP cycle. Not saying you WOULD Jayman, but he takes the same sloppy measuring habits to his DNP cycle, and we are having another ICU thread. Sorry to butt in Golden. Informative post bro. :)
 
You people are killing me with this, This should not be so hard, So in all I can or can not take powder and mix with 151 rum to make the diluted product. I have no source for these tools you talk of to grind into fine powder, I do have a razor blade and mirror though.LOL
 
I am with Bulldog...on top of that your body does not need more to ingest..remember all that filler crap goes in you and you gotta break it all down. use the pure stuff with no filler...your abosorbtion rate will get real high from less filler and if its harsh take less more often...
 
, people. how hard is it to dump it into some everclear . Ill tell you one thing, its a lot easier to do that , then to measure out .05 g, and split it up into 3 fucking doses, thats for sure.

golden delicious made an excellent post about how to mix the powder better, it works well
 
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GoldenDelicious said:


there arent any liquids here- its mixing powders

by the way, what did you edit?
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Didn't edit anything. I accidently hit edit when I meant to hit quote. I know we're not dealing with liquids. But there is liquid suspended Anavar. You've have heard of that no? I don't mean for injection. For oral use. Easier dosing.
 
I'v researched everything that I can find on this and most are saying to mix with 151 and boil, 39.5ml of 151- 2gram Ox and this comes out to 40cc's/50mg/ml that you squirt in your mouth.
 
1G ANAVAR MAKES TWO 50CC VIALS @ 10MG/ML (ORAL)

PUT 1G OF AV INTO A 50ML VIAL, ADD 10MLS OF BA, HEAT UNTIL CLEAR, DRAW
5MLS
OUT & PUT INTO 2nd 50ML VIAL. TOP BOTH VIALS OFF WITH 45 MLS OF PROP
GLYCOL
& MAKES 2 QTY 50 ML @10MG PER ML/ORAL.


Trust me this is alot easier than it looks this way and works like a charm
 
JAYMAN014 said:
I'v researched everything that I can find on this and most are saying to mix with 151 and boil, 39.5ml of 151- 2gram Ox and this comes out to 40cc's/50mg/ml that you squirt in your mouth.
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everclear is way better than 151 - theres no way (if your powder is pure) that you will get more than 16mg/ml in 151
 
IronJunkey said:
I am with Bulldog...on top of that your body does not need more to ingest..remember all that filler crap goes in you and you gotta break it all down. use the pure stuff with no filler...your abosorbtion rate will get real high from less filler and if its harsh take less more often...
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lactose = milk sugar

absorption wont change in this case
 
genarr3 said:

Didn't edit anything. I accidently hit edit when I meant to hit quote. I know we're not dealing with liquids. But there is liquid suspended Anavar. You've have heard of that no? I don't mean for injection. For oral use. Easier dosing.
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yes i have. what base do they use. what preservative. what viscosity. what other excipients.

look for goodness sakes people i know it looks like a pain in the ass but really its a sure thing. no risk. and its not bloody hard for goodness sake, a mortar and pestle is worth 20 bucks yeeesh
 
JAYMAN014 said:
I'v researched everything that I can find on this and most are saying to mix with 151 and boil, 39.5ml of 151- 2gram Ox and this comes out to 40cc's/50mg/ml that you squirt in your mouth.
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bad habit, boiling hormones
 
Can you guys elaborate why it is bad to boil? I was under the empression that that was a common practise by most UG labs.
 
hormones are proteins which are folded in a very delicate way

heat them up and they unfold and cant refold into their original configuration (they become denatured)

if they arent the same shape, they cant bind to the receptor, and are, for all intents and purposes, destroyed
 
GoldenDelicious said:
hormones are proteins which are folded in a very delicate way

heat them up and they unfold and cant refold into their original configuration (they become denatured)

if they arent the same shape, they cant bind to the receptor, and are, for all intents and purposes, destroyed
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Great post.
 
I decided that by the time I get vials,scales,BA,and the other few things I need I would be getting closer to my cost on papervar, also thought that it may be better for me as far as taking several doses a day of paper and work rather then trying to carry a syringe full of var, Thansk for all your help and continue with the thread for others.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
hormones are proteins which are folded in a very delicate way

heat them up and they unfold and cant refold into their original configuration (they become denatured)

if they arent the same shape, they cant bind to the receptor, and are, for all intents and purposes, destroyed
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Ya ... good answer GD, I had no idea. Makes me wonder how many UG labs' prods are bunk/ruined.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
hormones are proteins which are folded in a very delicate way

heat them up and they unfold and cant refold into their original configuration (they become denatured)

if they arent the same shape, they cant bind to the receptor, and are, for all intents and purposes, destroyed
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um, i thought hormones such as test, ox, etc were lipids.

gh / slin are peptide hormones, but you will not denature a AAS by boiling it
 
RJL is right. Boiling AAS will not cause any harm.
 
rjl296 said:


um, i thought hormones such as test, ox, etc were lipids.

gh / slin are peptide hormones, but you will not denature a AAS by boiling it
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fuck youre right, i thought the side chains were bigger (just did a big checkup lol) on the testosterone synthetics

what i said does apply to other hormones though- eg the corticosteroids in particular, obviously the peptides and some of the glucocorticoids

cheers for making me look into that, i would ahve gone on forever thinking that they were peptide based (even though i know that they are cholesterol analogues...lol...go figure)
 
so I like the option of mixing it with a liquid and simply doing the math. but is it necessary to mix with alcohol? Are there any other liquids I can mix it with? or hey, anyone know of a place to get a real accurate scale?
 
babbabuee said:
so I like the option of mixing it with a liquid and simply doing the math. but is it necessary to mix with alcohol? Are there any other liquids I can mix it with? or hey, anyone know of a place to get a real accurate scale?
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SK-10KD
 
Kinda expensive, don't you think bulldog? Geez, thats over 400.00 CAD.
 
ouch, that's expensive. I think I'm going to mix with alcohol. ok, I'm stoned, can someone help me with my math, I want 25mg/ml concentration while using 2.5g(2500mg of var powder), how much alcohol do I need? 100ml right? is it really that easy, just mix it in a bottle and shake it up and measure out 1ml in the morning, and 1ml in the evening? the alcohol doesn't have any effect on the potency of the var?
doesn't denature it?
 
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