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tracemhunter

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Okay so I am 20 and was at a bar and got a minor in possession of alcohol ticket. I got out of court about 30mins ago and guess what the sentence is? fine, community service, alcohol awareness, and 30 day license suspension. Now I am stuck in line behind 40 people waiting to see the clerk to see how much of each I have to pay/do. That Coor's Light was not worth it.

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Agreed. That's ridiculous they suspended your license. You weren't driving when it happened...so wtf?

What state do you live in?
 
I know how you feel however the number killer of teens in the US is drunk driving.. I agree that the suspension is over the top... This is a law that some lawmaker passed to secure his next 4 years on the seat..... What people dont realize is once a young person gets into trouble for that , they are rarely ever seen again in the courts for the same thing....... I agree with maybe the community service however to suspend your license for a non-driving offense is ridiculous.. God forbide being locked up for DWI, you would have gotten the Chair
 
How'd that go down? They served you and then carded you? Color me confused.

But don't fall into the trap of blaming bad luck for getting caught. The bad luck didn't kick in until after you set yourself up. Whether you agree with it or not, "20 = no, 21 = yes" is as clear as the law gets. The license suspension is just their way of saying Do we have your attention now? Best to say "Yes, I get it" and move on.

You can put me down for Drivers Against MADD Mothers -- the idea of random stops without probable cause chafes me big time. But before you give me a high-five, you should know that if someone's driving impaired I think they should be shot by the side of the road and their family billed $1.25 for the bullet.
 
who does the original "mom" work for now? Budweiser, some alcohol company, I don't remember which one.....
 
Yea you cant eve buy beer from the vendor guys in the isles at the OAKLAND or Giants games her in CA. I have to get up wait in line and risk spilling my beer on the steps back down.
 
sorry, however I have no tolerance for drinking behind the wheel. Glad you have only a small fine facing you; could be much worse.

Happened to me at your age, learning experience.
 
Okay so the story is this:

A group of friends (all over 21) and I went to a bar. When we got there the bouncer must've stepped away so I didn't get the usual X on my hand. We all got our drinks at sat down at a table. I had about four sips of my beer before a couple of guys from TABC (Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission) came to our table and asked for our IDs. I was the only one that was under 21 and I was taking a drink from my beer when our eyes met so he took me outside. In other words, I was caught red-handed. When I got outside there were some other minors getting tickets. I was completely calm and honest with him so he decided to just give me the Minor in Possession instead of tagging on Minor in Consumption with it.

So I went to court this morning at around 10:15 and they did all of the <insert apartment complex> vs. <insert poor minority> cases. Then I was the first on the list. At 11:00 he called my name and I went up to see him. He asked if Coor's Light is my beverage of choice and I respond with, "Apparently." Everyone in the courtroom laughed. He then said that because of MADD's shenanigans I will have to pay a fine, do community service, alcohol awareness, and have my license suspended (though I can get an occupational license so that I can still drive to work). After that was the waiting game. I took a ticket to see the clerk and wait from 11:10 to 2:30 to find out all of the shit that I will have to do. In all, the fine was $165, 8 hours community service, 6 hours of some alcohol awareness program, and the 30 day license suspension. If they wanted to get my attention... well it worked. From now on it's only Fresca when I go out to the bars. However, while I was waiting I talked to an extremely hot 6ft blonde with fake tits that thought I was funny in court (she was waiting for her case to be called) and got her number, so the day wasn't too terribly bad.
 
I don't think you were treated fairly.... unless you were driving around drunk and just forgetting to mention that part.
 
myway said:
I don't think you were treated fairly.... unless you were driving around drunk and just forgetting to mention that part.
Nope, I do not drink and drive. That is incredibly irresponsible and the possible repercussions are simply not worth the risk. I am actually DD quite often. I wasn't drunk or making a scene. Hell, the last time I got drunk was at my cousin's wedding reception back in October. Stroke of bad luck I suppose.
 
digger said:
You can put me down for Drivers Against MADD Mothers -- the idea of random stops without probable cause chafes me big time. But before you give me a high-five, you should know that if someone's driving impaired I think they should be shot by the side of the road and their family billed $1.25 for the bullet.

My main objection to MADD policies is the legal limit. They campaign to keep lowering the BAC percentage, which in my opinion does nothing but make criminals out of social drinkers. The drunk assholes who kill the children are all blowing .2% or worse, so lowering the BAC limit from .1% to .08% to .06% and still campaigning to lower it further will have no effect on the problem. I think .1% is a good legal limit, maybe even .12%.
 
tracemhunter said:
Okay so I am 20 and was at a bar and got a minor in possession of alcohol ticket. I got out of court about 30mins ago and guess what the sentence is? fine, community service, alcohol awareness, and 30 day license suspension. Now I am stuck in line behind 40 people waiting to see the clerk to see how much of each I have to pay/do. That Coor's Light was not worth it.

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I would say that it is your own fault for making a bad choice......
 
Don't get me started on MADD. Okay, I do NOT condone drunk driving. I've never done it and will never do it. On the other hand, if you think that breathalyzers operated by cops, whose job it is to arrest you, are accuarate, think again. Think about it from a scientific perspective. These guys know nothing about the machines, the calibration of the machines, different factors that can give false readings (trust me there is plenty of crazy variance in those machines) etc, etc.

Oh, and the field tests are a friggin JOKE. Ummm...I told him to walk a straight IMAGINARY line on the gravely side of a sloped shoulder on the highway and he veered off my imaginary line a bit, so he must be drunk.

Plus, if you look at many cops police reports it becomes obvious that they sit outside bars and pull everyone over. They give the same probable cause statement like "they swerved over the yellow line" for every person they pulled over that night. Such BS.

People shouldn't drive drunk. My point is that the state should have to PROVE their case a bit better.

In Kentucky, the prosecution is FORBIDDEN BY STATUTE to amend down a DUI charge to a lesser charge. What does this mean? Well, no plea bargaining on DUI's. We have to take almost every darn one to trial or have them plead guilty upon agreement of the least possible sentence. Who can afford to hire a chemical analyst expert witness to appear at their trial? Not too may defendants can. A real scientist would probably disprove the science in more than 50% of the cases.
 
heatherrae said:
PS -- you shouldn't have been drinking underage kiddo.


Shush mom.

Unlike everyone else, I support both underage drinking and driving drunk.




I think there should be a drunk lane on the highway. Surround it with concrete barriers and provide one lane for both directions. To get let in the lane you have to blow into a breathalizer and register at least a .05 to get the gate open.
We could put cameras along the lane and charge ppv to watch the mayhem.
 
mountain muscle said:
Shush mom.

Unlike everyone else, I support both underage drinking and driving drunk.




I think there should be a drunk lane on the highway. Surround it with concrete barriers and provide one lane for both directions. To get let in the lane you have to blow into a breathalizer and register at least a .05 to get the gate open.
We could put cameras along the lane and charge ppv to watch the mayhem.
:lmao:

yeah, but you are odd.
 
mountain muscle said:
You say that like it is a bad thing.

Just for that all lawyers have to use the lane as well. But they will be required to walk.
lol...i bet people would cheer that idea
 
doesn't sound TOO bad, just a big pain in the ass.
 
Mr. dB said:
My main objection to MADD policies is the legal limit. They campaign to keep lowering the BAC percentage, which in my opinion does nothing but make criminals out of social drinkers. The drunk assholes who kill the children are all blowing .2% or worse, so lowering the BAC limit from .1% to .08% to .06% and still campaigning to lower it further will have no effect on the problem. I think .1% is a good legal limit, maybe even .12%.
Yup -- and while they keep lowering the BAC percentage threshold, they still let 95 year old people drive.

The should measure reflexes and judgment tests versus both age and BAC and index age vs. BAC so if you change one limit (i.e. 0.08%) you have to change the other too (i.e. no driving aver age 72).
 
american medical association
recommended a .15 BAC to register sufficiently impaired

I'd have 3 less DUI's with a .15 BAC barometer
 
GoldenDelicious said:
that is fucking ridiculous, land of the free my ass
austrialia doesn't have alcohol rules and regs?
i'm sure they do...land of the free does not equal a free for all
 
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