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JKurz1 said:
That's all that needs to be said............



Oh, and NJ to get his ass under the squat rack and away from the cardio bunnies....
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You forgot to mention the Loch Ness Monster.... he took $3.50 from me the other day...
 
for the record my diet is clean but i eat in excess..i have 1 or 2 cheat meals per week..i eat mainly chicken steak turkey tuna oats rice whole wheat bread pro shakes..

it boils down to goals..mine are different..you dont need visible abs to have a 2k total..and i have no aspirations of competing in a bb'ing comp so why diet now..
everyone is different which is what isaid in my very first post..

if your goal is to be the most ripped regardless of your muscularity fine im not critisizing that..but dont critisize me if having abs is not my goal..

if we learned anything from this i think we need a poll what is easier to obtain: a six pack abs or "above" average muscularity..this seems to be the driving wedge with this debate
 
This thread is killing me
suffice it to say everyone has different goals, so we shouldnt be trashing people that have different ones then ours.
But njripped, some of your comments I'm starting to take personally. If you are happy with your size, fine, but that doesnt mean you should be trying to piss on guys with mass goals different than yours. For what its worth, I have pics posted on here where I was natural, and just as lean but bigger than you, so I dont find your physique that impressive, but you wont hear me trashing it on the boards because I am way bigger than you
and the comment about whats the point of bulking when you look too shitty to take your shirt off, thats crap. I bulk to about 13% every year, but have never been shy about taking my shirt off, and even at that % I never seem to have problems turning heads
 
needsize said:
This thread is killing me
suffice it to say everyone has different goals, so we shouldnt be trashing people that have different ones then ours.
But njripped, some of your comments I'm starting to take personally. If you are happy with your size, fine, but that doesnt mean you should be trying to piss on guys with mass goals different than yours. For what its worth, I have pics posted on here where I was natural, and just as lean but bigger than you, so I dont find your physique that impressive, but you wont hear me trashing it on the boards because I am way bigger than you
and the comment about whats the point of bulking when you look too shitty to take your shirt off, thats crap. I bulk to about 13% every year, but have never been shy about taking my shirt off, and even at that % I never seem to have problems turning heads
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Hey! You don't count Needsize you aren't human... you're some kind of genetic freak created in a lab.

Wait a minute... I lost another $3.50... where's that damned loch ness monster hiding?
 
Just noticed you gave negative karma to me - that gave me a laugh too. If I was gay, I'd like to think that I could do better than just looking at pics of naked fat guys. lol

As far as squating, I could lie just like everyone else does about their BF levels. The truth is I had a motorccyle accident when I was 17 & broke my foot, tibia fibia, etc. As a result I do not have full range of movement in my ankle. And yes I can submit verified pics as proof if needed. lol

wnt2bBeast said:
glad i can make you laugh..im not sure why you want my pic so bad..im not gay..i like women..i really dont have a dig cam..my brother does though..

i tell you what you stick here in diet land ill stick to training..
you still havent answered my question if you squat or not
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BBF
I'm not interested in putting on more size. I'm happy right where I am. How many can say that. I'm not looking to be a bodybuilder - just a guy in great shape who who can maintain it very easily. ;)


My advice:
NJRipped: nice abs but you need to lift heavy and put on some size. As "Bubba" Colman once said, "Everybody wants to be a bodybuilding but nobody wants to lift no heavy weights."
 
NJRipped said:
J



BBF
I'm not interested in putting on more size. I'm happy right where I am. How many can say that. I'm not looking to be a bodybuilder - just a guy in great shape who who can maintain it very easily. ;)


see now if you had said that in the begining there would be no argument here..i understand not everyone wants to be huge..that is fine..i would agree with you if you are happy with the amount of muscle you have you should try to get to an easily maintainable level of BF..jeez
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( quote by NJRIPPED)
As far as squating, I could lie just like everyone else does about their BF levels. The truth is I had a motorccyle accident when I was 17 & broke my foot, tibia fibia, etc. As a result I do not have full range of movement in my ankle. And yes I can submit verified pics as proof if needed. lol



Ive stayed out of this till this bullshit. " I dont squat cause of my bad anckle" guess what....BULLSHIT! Your doin the same thing that you fuckin bitch to everyone about. Oh and by the way about bad anckles, I fell four stories of a log home when I was 20 and totally blew out my ackle, feemer, pelvis, 6 ribs, and 3 bones in my left hand. I have a rod inside my right leg and plates in my anckle and hand. After 6 months of therapy I could walk agian and I have no motion in my anckle to this day because they had to fuse it together. Leg day was Monday, Monday I squated 305 for 5x5. You talk about callin people out, tellin them to post up pics, well I got a challange for you. I challange you to go to your gym find a guy 250lb+ with under 12% b.f who is a deadicted bodybuilder and tell him hes fat and lazy to his face and then report back and let us know how it went.

OK...bring on the smart ass come backs and fat remarks but just remember, everyone reading this knows damn good and well that you would never say any of this to any of our faces in person
 
BIGDHO said:
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As far as squating, I could lie just like everyone else does about their BF levels. The truth is I had a motorccyle accident when I was 17 & broke my foot, tibia fibia, etc. As a result I do not have full range of movement in my ankle. And yes I can submit verified pics as proof if needed. lol



Ive stayed out of this till this bullshit. " I dont squat cause of my bad anckle" guess what....BULLSHIT! Your doin the same thing that you fuckin bitch to everyone about. Oh and by the way about bad anckles, I fell four stories of a log home when I was 20 and totally blew out my ackle, feemer, pelvis, 6 ribs, and 3 bones in my left hand. I have a rod inside my right leg and plates in my anckle and hand. After 6 months of therapy I could walk agian and I have no motion in my anckle to this day because they had to fuse it together. Leg day was Monday, Monday I squated 305 for 5x5. You talk about callin people out, tellin them to post up pics, well I got a challange for you. I challange you to go to your gym find a guy 250lb+ with under 12% b.f who is a deadicted bodybuilder and tell him hes fat and lazy to his face and then report back and let us know how it went.

OK...bring on the smart ass come backs and fat remarks but just remember, everyone reading this knows damn good and well that you would never say any of this to any of our faces in person
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I slipped a disk in my back in high school, and broke my ankle sparing when I was 18, and still have enough scar tissue in it to the jion protrodes on the lateral side of it a good inch farther out than my other ankle... so I found this amusing also, since I've done deep squats with 505 on myworking sets, and have done hack squats to parrellel with 22 plates. Nice point orb. Its a lame excuse.
 
You must spread some Karma around before giving it to BIGDHO again.



Did I just read NJ post an excuse for not doing squats? Sort of like his slamming everyone for not having ca camera to post pics or being fat because they are bulking.........hahahahaha.............this thread is something else....hey by the way,


CAN WE EAT MAC AND CHEESE?????????????????????????????
 
So....can I eat mac and cheese or not? Just kidding. I just had to bring this post back topic. But NJRipped, fyi, out of my real close circle of bros, 12 of the 14 of us have six packs and have had them for years. I am one of the two that doesn't have a totally ripped mid-section. Why is this, because me and the other guy want to put on mass. The other 12 just want to look good with their shirts off. Most of them eat like shit, drink like fish, and smoke their asses off and never hit the gym.
 
BIGDHO said:
( quote by NJRIPPED)
As far as squating, I could lie just like everyone else does about their BF levels. The truth is I had a motorccyle accident when I was 17 & broke my foot, tibia fibia, etc. As a result I do not have full range of movement in my ankle. And yes I can submit verified pics as proof if needed. lol



Ive stayed out of this till this bullshit. " I dont squat cause of my bad anckle" guess what....BULLSHIT! Your doin the same thing that you fuckin bitch to everyone about. Oh and by the way about bad anckles, I fell four stories of a log home when I was 20 and totally blew out my ackle, feemer, pelvis, 6 ribs, and 3 bones in my left hand. I have a rod inside my right leg and plates in my anckle and hand. After 6 months of therapy I could walk agian and I have no motion in my anckle to this day because they had to fuse it together. Leg day was Monday, Monday I squated 305 for 5x5. You talk about callin people out, tellin them to post up pics, well I got a challange for you. I challange you to go to your gym find a guy 250lb+ with under 12% b.f who is a deadicted bodybuilder and tell him hes fat and lazy to his face and then report back and let us know how it went.

OK...bring on the smart ass come backs and fat remarks but just remember, everyone reading this knows damn good and well that you would never say any of this to any of our faces in person
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werd BigD!!!
knee surgery for me as well..and i squat :chomp:
 
Sweet fuckin Jeezuzz! 6 pages of Mac and Cheese which turned into a flamefest! lmfoa! Wow .. i thought taht this was actually going to be 6 pages of mac and cheese talk.

NJ, one line of yours I find the most redundant, and that I here more and more people say all the time... is ... "I dont care about strength", or I just want to get big etc... I am a bodybuilder .. dont care about strength. The thing is that you will NEVER really grow until you get stronger. They are so closely related, strength and growth. If you dont try to get stronger ... you will never grow your muscles. But apparently as you have stated, you dont want to grow your muscles or even get stronger. And thats fine. Regular exercise, dieting, and hitting the stairclimber should keep you where you are for years to come. However to most of us, this is unchallenging. Do you really want to be lifting the same amount of weight for years to come just to maintain your physique?

Some of us just want to be "fit", while others like to keep constantly progressing forward building more and more muscle, and constantly challenging ourselves. THis is done by getting stronger. Progressively overlaoding your weight, and periodizing your training. The best way to do this is to constantly move more weight in heavy lifts like squats, bench, deads etc, eat lots, and use the right drugs. I personally am always aiming to set new records on all my lifts, and continue to progress forward. My girlfriend on the other hand trains more with the same theory as you do. She dosent care to get stronger. She dosent care to build muscle, she wants to be "fit" and thats it. And she does look .. reallllly hot! She has better abs than I do, and she is really fit. But we train much differntly. She is almost a vegetarian, and lifts very light weights all the time, uses machines and the stairmaster. What it comes down to is different strokes for different folks. Because you don't want to build muscle or get stronger, only maintain your abs year round, dosent mean that you should knock want2bbeast for wanting to grow and get stronger. And likewise if you are happy where you are, people shouldnt be giving you a hard time if you just want to diet and stairmaster and move the same amount of weight each workout to maintain your look.

Its pretty rare that someone is completely satisfied with their physique, when there are so many great physiques out there. I think that almost eveyone wants to add more muscle. But not everyone (like you obviously). It all comes down to different strokes for different folks, so I say lets drop the flaming... as amusing as it is.
 
Yeah well IMHO I think everyone should lay off of "lab boy" a.k.a. needsize. The guy has helped more folks on this board than can be counted (and off too if I recall his profession). The guy came in second in his FIRST contest (and should have been first by the pics!). He doesn't shit on anyone unless it's solicited in the first place. And then some no-brain-weenies crap on his opinion! Nice, is that what the guy gets for helping people above and beyond the call of duty on this board?

So the guy eats M&C and you don't agree with it, whoopie shit! Show the guy some respect anyway, he's earned it again and again. Personally, based on all the other sage advice the guy has, I'd give M&C a try anyway.

*shaking my head*
How do you argue with a build like that anyway?
 
Mvy - what up bro?

Anyways, I couldn't fathom dragging my ass to the gym everyday if all I wanted to do was maintain my level of fitness...........how freaking boring?

My fiance trains her ass off daily too, and again, does not care about getting stronger. TIs why she does daily cardio, plays tennnis, and uses the same amt. of weights everytime she's in there....she spices shit up by switching bodypart pairings, different exerecises, and ways to decrease her rear-end size (Trust me fellas, she wears a size zero, is in peak condition, but claims her butt is big.....strange) Anyways, my point is and always has been too each his own. You're going to find the majority around here want to be bigger and badder........

Truth is we are all born with a 6-pack................we aren't born with 400lb benches....
 
JKurz1 said:
Mvy - what up bro?

Anyways, I couldn't fathom dragging my ass to the gym everyday if all I wanted to do was maintain my level of fitness...........how freaking boring?

My fiance trains her ass off daily too, and again, does not care about getting stronger. TIs why she does daily cardio, plays tennnis, and uses the same amt. of weights everytime she's in there....she spices shit up by switching bodypart pairings, different exerecises, and ways to decrease her rear-end size (Trust me fellas, she wears a size zero, is in peak condition, but claims her butt is big.....strange) Anyways, my point is and always has been too each his own. You're going to find the majority around here want to be bigger and badder........

Truth is we are all born with a 6-pack................we aren't born with 400lb benches....
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i like a big butt :p
 
JKurz1 said:
Truth is we are all born with a 6-pack................we aren't born with 400lb benches....
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lol .. wad up Kurtz! Thats a wicked line. That could be a good line for a poster or add lol.

I couldnt fathom not wanting to progress forward either. It just gives you something to strive towards. Goals to overide, and a way to continually give yourself a sense of achievement and accomplishment.
 
Griz1 said:
Yeah well IMHO I think everyone should lay off of "lab boy" a.k.a. needsize. The guy has helped more folks on this board than can be counted (and off too if I recall his profession). The guy came in second in his FIRST contest (and should have been first by the pics!). He doesn't shit on anyone unless it's solicited in the first place. And then some no-brain-weenies crap on his opinion! Nice, is that what the guy gets for helping people above and beyond the call of duty on this board?

So the guy eats M&C and you don't agree with it, whoopie shit! Show the guy some respect anyway, he's earned it again and again. Personally, based on all the other sage advice the guy has, I'd give M&C a try anyway.

*shaking my head*
How do you argue with a build like that anyway?
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DUDE...READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE YOU POST...............no one is bashing Needsize, if anything, we've establish how genetically gifted he is......don't you feel dumb........... :worried:
 
You bros are really cracking me up. So what are we doing now - comparing injuries. lol Hey, I broke my ankle/back/whatever and I can squat. I knew this would happen but thought it would be kind of funny so I said it anyway.

Let me say this: anyone can say anything on the internet - doesn't make it true. That's the reason I always say post some pics. I don't need to lie about myself or my goals and that's the reason I'm able to prove everything I say - including the fact that there is a 2" difference between the circum of my left and right thigh/calf. Do you think that's the result of not training properly? lol

I don't mind continuing to post on this thread but you're going to have to slow it down a little - I do have a day job. ;)

Sorry if I missed anyones direct attacks - there were just too many of them. :)
 
So what does this have to do with tha daymned loch ness monsta????

Then I ask, njripped how much he spend on food every day with dis diet ... and do you know what he said? :Annabelletx chimes in: "Tree fiddy"...

Then I said, "Damnit woman...I'm tryin ta tell da damned story! He said tree fiddy..."

Whell...it was about that time that I noticed njripped was about 8 stories tall and was a crustatoin from the planet Lisicus.

Then I said, "Daymnit njripped... you ain't no John Basedhow look-alike... you're dat damned loch ness monsta! Look, we work fo our money in dis house... we don't just go arhound givin away tree fiddy!"

:Annabelletx chimes in again: "Oh... he was soooooooo mad.."

Then I said, "Yo got daymned right I was mad..."
 
JKurz1 said:
DUDE...READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE YOU POST...............no one is bashing Needsize, if anything, we've establish how genetically gifted he is......don't you feel dumb........... :worried:
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dammit, for the last time I am not genetically gifted, you wouldnt believe the trouble I've had gaining size over the years....15 years of training so far
 
needsize said:
dammit, for the last time I am not genetically gifted, you wouldnt believe the trouble I've had gaining size over the years....15 years of training so far
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And you look damn good! Must be all that mac and cheese ;) :mix:
 
BIGDHO said:
And you look damn good! Must be all that mac and cheese ;) :mix:
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Did I eva tell you lil' cracks about da 3rd time I saw da loch ness monsta? Whell.. Annabelletx ahnd I whas fishin down at lake Sommerville...das that lake 30 miles from College Station....
 
wnt2bBeast said:
so you are happy with the amount of muscle you have on your frame right now? if you are thats fine...see i am not happy with the amount of muscle i have which is why i see no point trying to get ripped..when that day comes i plan on shedding the excess fat/water and maintaining a lower bf..

I really am not trying to insult you but do you think you have above average musculature? again im looking at your avi and you look good..but do you think your in the same league as say galaxy or needsize? they are above average..to get their they didnt spend all their time cutting or worrying if they lose their abs..

you care nothing about strength so you care nothing about making gains from your workout? again you must be happy with the amount of muscle you have and that is totally fine..but some of us want to be bigger..
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Jesus you are a fucked up dysmorphic individual. Why would he want to have the build of needsize or galaxy?????
 
JKurz1 said:
DUDE...READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE YOU POST...............no one is bashing Needsize, if anything, we've establish how genetically gifted he is......don't you feel dumb........... :worried:
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I wasn't referring to the genetically gifted comments. I was referring to the earlier comments by some folks. As he mentioned some were/are bordering on personal attacks.

So NO I don't feel dumb J. I'm left to wonder did you read the whole post?

I guess it's how you interpret the written word without all the smillies and junk.

Fuck! All this over Kraft Dinner...geez!
 
mr.cuts said:
Jesus you are a fucked up dysmorphic individual. Why would he want to have the build of needsize or galaxy?????
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so what exactly are you saying about my build then?


bigdho, the funny thing is that I havent even eaten mac and cheese in 1-2 months, I forgot all about it and have been going with sandwhiches instead
 
needsize said:
so what exactly are you saying about my build then?


bigdho, the funny thing is that I havent even eaten mac and cheese in 1-2 months, I forgot all about it and have been going with sandwhiches instead
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BRo - toss some mac in cheese in with our toast....mac and cheese/tuna sandmiches!!!!!
 
needsize said:
so what exactly are you saying about my build then?


bigdho, the funny thing is that I havent even eaten mac and cheese in 1-2 months, I forgot all about it and have been going with sandwhiches instead
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Whatever your doin keep it up its workin :) by the way good luck on your new cycle amounts, hope it works out for you.
 
He's right, that is how I feel. Just as you wouldn't want my build (unless maybe you weren't able to eat for a year - lol), I would never choose to have yours. Let me use cars as an analogy. I would never drive a Dodge Viper although most on this board would choose that in a second over my 911.

I follow Mies van der Rohe's "Less is more" theory. I don't like excess for the sake of excess. The minimalistic approach is my preference. :)

needsize said:
so what exactly are you saying about my build then?


bigdho, the funny thing is that I havent even eaten mac and cheese in 1-2 months, I forgot all about it and have been going with sandwhiches instead
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Jesus you are a fucked up dysmorphic individual. Why would he want to have the build of needsize or galaxy?????
 
bro thanks for calling me fat..you made my day..i bet you that little prick in the gym grunting trying to bench 185..then you get up off the bench and pull your shirt up to look at your abs..thinking how great you are..meanwhile there are tons of guys busting there asses and stufing their face to put on muscle..only to shed that excess fat and show off all that hard work..that is when you will realize just how average you really are!!! :rolleyes:
 
Relax bro, angry, bitter and fat is no way to go through life. Now I can't help you with the anger and bitterness (for that you'll need a psychiatrist) but I may be able to hook you up with a diet that works. lol

wnt2bBeast said:
bro thanks for calling me fat..you made my day..i bet you that little prick in the gym grunting trying to bench 185..then you get up off the bench and pull your shirt up to look at your abs..thinking how great you are..meanwhile there are tons of guys busting there asses and stufing their face to put on muscle..only to shed that excess fat and show off all that hard work..that is when you will realize just how average you really are!!! :rolleyes:
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NJRipped said:
Relax bro, angry, bitter and fat is no way to go through life. Now I can't help you with the anger and bitterness (for that you'll need a psychiatrist) but I may be able to hook you up with a diet that works. lol
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why are you a little prick with one leg shorter than the other..id rather order the basedow diet direct thank you
 
NJRipped said:
Jesus you are a fucked up dysmorphic individual. Why would he want to have the build of needsize or galaxy?????
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so what exactly is wrong with my build then bro. I walked around for 3+ months this summer just as lean as you, so I'm not sure what you're problem is? First you make fat comments to the bigger guys here, because to you its all about being lean. Well I walk around 1/2 the time just as lean, and I guarantee that I have been leaner than you have ever been, and have pics to prove it
so what exactly is your issue?
 
why dont we do this..since i think you were extremely offended when i said it was fairly easy to obtain your physique..lets ask someone with way more experience than the both of us..NS has gone to xtreme low bf and has gone through bulking phases as well..

NS is it harder to get to your contest shape or do you find it harder to build muscle? also depending on the size one wants to obtain it obviously takes longer to gain?

NS i think the quotes got screwed up i dont believe it was Nj who said that about you i think it was mr. cuts
 
wnt2bBeast
Jesus Christ you are truly ignorant aren't you. lol I didn't say one leg was shorter than the other. lol I said there was a 2" difference in circumference. Now go look up the word circumference and see if you can figure it out. I'm done with you until you move up to a 2nd grade reading/comprehension level. ;)

wnt2bBeast said:
why are you a little prick with one leg shorter than the other..id rather order the basedow diet direct thank you
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NJRipped said:
wnt2bBeast
Jesus Christ you are truly ignorant aren't you. lol I didn't say one leg was shorter than the other. lol I said there was a 2" difference in circumference. Now go look up the word circumference and see if you can figure it out. I'm done with you until you move up to a 2nd grade reading/comprehension level. ;)
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if you would like you can measure the circumference of my cock by checking the dialation of your mother asshole
 
Are you so arrogant that you believe that everyone would want your physique? Because that sure seems like the question asked below. Is it really so difficult for you to comprehend that someone would not want the amount of muscle mass you carry?

Do you think I couldn't go to the local juice factory and fill up? I'm not saying that I would look anything like you because neither of us has any idea what I would look like juiced to the gills. My point is that I could gain muscle mass - and probably make great gains with my diet. I'm sure I could gain at least 25lbs of muscle mass. Well, why don't I then - because I don't want it and don't find it to be aesthetically pleasing.


needsize said:
so what exactly is wrong with my build then bro. I walked around for 3+ months this summer just as lean as you, so I'm not sure what you're problem is? First you make fat comments to the bigger guys here, because to you its all about being lean. Well I walk around 1/2 the time just as lean, and I guarantee that I have been leaner than you have ever been, and have pics to prove it
so what exactly is your issue?
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i really cant believe your calling NS arrogant...if you knew anything other than the diet board you would more than likely think otherwise..the guy will answer jsut about any question he always post from his experience..

im sick and tired of you skinny runts that starve yourself and dont squat say that they are happy with their size and then say if i wanted to be big i would take as much juice as you..ive seen a pic of ns when he was younger before he started gear he had some pretty thick arms lean as well..

i would think most guys would prefer his physique over basedows..just my .02
 
NJRipped said:
Are you so arrogant that you believe that everyone would want your physique? Because that sure seems like the question asked below. Is it really so difficult for you to comprehend that someone would not want the amount of muscle mass you carry?

Do you think I couldn't go to the local juice factory and fill up? I'm not saying that I would look anything like you because neither of us has any idea what I would look like juiced to the gills. My point is that I could gain muscle mass - and probably make great gains with my diet. I'm sure I could gain at least 25lbs of muscle mass. Well, why don't I then - because I don't want it and don't find it to be aesthetically pleasing.
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I am not arrogant in any way shape or form, but the way you asked "Why the hell would anyone want to look like needsize" was pretty damn insulting, so I was interested in what there was about my physique you felt you needed to insult?
See if you can see the difference in how I word this
"I dont understand why anyone would want to stay the same size and strength and never really make any changes like njripped, my goal is to constantly make improvements"
or
"Why the hell would anyone want to look like a scrawny little aids patient like njripped"?

You'll notice how one method of phrasing it is pretty insulting
 
You're not reading the posts. First of all I didn't say "Why the hell would anyone want to look like needsize." Actually, no one made this statement. If they did then I could see why you might be insulted.

What was actually said by another member was "Why would he want to have the build of needsize or galaxy?????" By "he," I believe the member meant "why would NJRipped want to look like needsize." He was correct in his assumption.

Even if you did make the below statement about me, it wouldn't offend me. Some people are very closed minded and this is what I would assume. Have to go to work now. :)

needsize said:
I am not arrogant in any way shape or form, but the way you asked "Why the hell would anyone want to look like needsize" was pretty damn insulting, so I was interested in what there was about my physique you felt you needed to insult?
See if you can see the difference in how I word this
"I dont understand why anyone would want to stay the same size and strength and never really make any changes like njripped, my goal is to constantly make improvements"
or
"Why the hell would anyone want to look like a scrawny little aids patient like njripped"?

You'll notice how one method of phrasing it is pretty insulting
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wow my thread about fucking macaroni and cheese turned into a shit fest. first off

needsize- started out average build a few years ago, he is not geneticly gifted. he IS A HARD WORKING DEDICATED MOTHER FUCKER. you new guys who came to the boards within thelast couple years know DICK about needsize and how he has COME UP , if you wanna go toe to toe with needsize i suggest you take up another hobby cause i really dont see anyone touching needsize's, build,character,integrety.

njripped-even though i dont care for the kid i think you guys are bashinf him silly for no reason, i agree its the fat thick strong dudes who always insult the lean guys. so your 20%+ body fat that can sqaut 1000 pounds 10 times WHO GIVES A SHIT!!?? GO DRINK A BEER and eat your caloric surplus in one sitting,its the insicurity that seeks out the smaller leaner guys. i bet my left leg you 20%+ guys would not take off your shirts in public let alone in front of your crib.

time to spray some red k around
 
georgie i dont squat 1g i wish but ive never said that..it takes avery elite individual to reach that goal..only a very few will ever..the same can be said for those that have abs "who gives a shit"..

your right this thread got out of hand..if you look at my first post on page 4 i made some comments but to be honest they were generalizations and they werent a direct criticism..i was merely pointing out 2 extremes those that only care to be ripped and those that are adding lean muscle only to be a bigger ripped person later on..

everyone should care about how much theyre lifting because if it aint going up guess what you aint growing..but this isnt about training..

I can honestly say if he had said from the beginning i do not wish to add any size to my frame this would not have gone on as long as it did..I cant fault anyone for not wanting to get bigger..i respect what one feels teir ideal physique should be..hes reached his goal and thats great..Im still working on mine so why you want to shit on me because im a work in progress..never once did i claim i looked better than you or that im stronger than you i dont think ive ever said that on this board period..

I get much more satisfaction when i can help someone in the gym with a lift or if someone ask me wh am i doing that whats it for..i got a pm from someone i barely remeber helping telling me how he added 30 lbs to his bench and its still going up..to me thats what these boards should be about..why sit here and trash someone either way and then demand they put up pics..What does that really prove..I hate to mention names but i remeber when someone posted their pic and it was totally not what we expected however that person was very knowledgeable about AAS use and such..everytone ripped on him..why all of a sudden he wasnt smart anymore? I really dont get this whole pic thing..if you think what i say is bullshit thats fine dont take any advice from me...
 
Listen up childhren...neva trust a woman wit one leg longa than the otha.
 
I'm scared to take my shirt off....and if someone doesn't shut BBF the hell up, I'm gonna kill his crazy ass.......lol
 
NJRipped said:
Are you so arrogant that you believe that everyone would want your physique? Because that sure seems like the question asked below. Is it really so difficult for you to comprehend that someone would not want the amount of muscle mass you carry?

Do you think I couldn't go to the local juice factory and fill up? I'm not saying that I would look anything like you because neither of us has any idea what I would look like juiced to the gills. My point is that I could gain muscle mass - and probably make great gains with my diet. I'm sure I could gain at least 25lbs of muscle mass. Well, why don't I then - because I don't want it and don't find it to be aesthetically pleasing.
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ROFL@"the local juice factory"!!!
 
I just slammed some tuna, and 1.5 boxes of Mac and cheese..........see, abs are still there..........

<----------------------------------------- :p
 
needsize said:
I know there are a lot of people that disagree with it as a bulking choice, but considering its cheap, easy, high carbs, low fat, I've never understood the arguement. Plus, with a can of tuna, or 1/2 container of cottage cheese(this actually tastes good in it, especially in the white cheddar stuff), you have over 40 grams of protein per serving as well
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I used to eat this all the time to bulk. Helped alot with the extra calories and carbs, especially when I was going for 600-800 carbs a day and sometimes 6000 calories. Protein isnt the highest by itself, around 40 grams, but its easy enough to throw a can of tuna in it. I also liked the flavored cream of wheat when I was doing my old bulking diet. Easy carbs. Id highly reccomend macaroni and cheese also. Just bought a big box myself at the warehouse.
 
WalkingBeast said:
I used to eat this all the time to bulk. Helped alot with the extra calories and carbs, especially when I was going for 600-800 carbs a day and sometimes 6000 calories. Protein isnt the highest by itself, around 40 grams, but its easy enough to throw a can of tuna in it. I also liked the flavored cream of wheat when I was doing my old bulking diet. Easy carbs. Id highly reccomend macaroni and cheese also. Just bought a big box myself at the warehouse.
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Best thing for a bulk............2 THICK ANPB and Jelly sandwhiches on 100% whole wheat (cold) and a 24oz glass of milk about 11pm at night............
 
Honeslty, I'm thinking the best way to add some bulk is to eat in the middle of the night............mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............like 2 minutes before bed........
 
JKurz1 said:
Best thing for a bulk............2 THICK ANPB and Jelly sandwhiches on 100% whole wheat (cold) and a 24oz glass of milk about 11pm at night............
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Another favorite of mine! I usually get atleast 64oz of milk a day, and as Im drinking that Ill make 2-3 peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches with 4 tablespoons of peanut butter in each sandwhich for 44-66 grams of protein. Ill either drink some of the milk with that or some gatorade, since Ill drink 1/2 gallon of that on some days also. The peanut butter is usually skippy or another brand, and the bread is white. haha Ill get the natural peanut butter on occasion. But I usually eat that right out of the container. Like the chunky peanut butter on sandwhiches.
 
WalkingBeast said:
Another favorite of mine! I usually get atleast 64oz of milk a day, and as Im drinking that Ill make 2-3 peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches with 4 tablespoons of peanut butter in each sandwhich for 44-66 grams of protein. Ill either drink some of the milk with that or some gatorade, since Ill drink 1/2 gallon of that on some days also. The peanut butter is usually skippy or another brand, and the bread is white. haha Ill get the natural peanut butter on occasion. But I usually eat that right out of the container. Like the chunky peanut butter on sandwhiches.
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Hahah.....and if your extremely consistent and that menu doesnt turn you into a complete lard ass, your metabilism is either through the roof or you are on some serious GH.............


On a serious note, cut your flippin workouts to 1/5 hours MAX...........this 3 and 4 hour shit has got to go.....that's why you arent making any gains bro..........
 
Lowest said:
What about ramen noodles then? The ones my brother and I used to get ran about 550-600 calories per package, and they cost 18 cents each. About 10g's of fat, 10g's of protein, and no sugar. Actually, I should buy that stuff again since I'm poor :) Oh and mac and cheese with some ground beef in it is one of my all-time favs!
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Another favorite!! Shit I need to get to the store!!
 
JKurz1 said:
Hahah.....and if your extremely consistent and that menu doesnt turn you into a complete lard ass, your metabilism is either through the roof or you are on some serious GH.............


On a serious note, cut your flippin workouts to 1/5 hours MAX...........this 3 and 4 hour shit has got to go.....that's why you arent making any gains bro..........
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:FRlol: :FRlol: No gains brother?! haha Ive been making my best gains in years. Ive put on 3/4 of an inch on the arms in the last 6-8 months,some more size on the chest, and legs are up another inch also. Im always trying to improve what I can though. The last 4 years before this, I was gaining 1/4 inch on the arms per year. VERY slow gains. My arms didnt want to grow much past 17" haha, or even 16". They just hit 18.5" a few days ago. Strength is increasing nicely as well. Just cant deadlift. By may, which is a full year for me, I expect to have charted some nice gains this year. So Im satisfied with this progress. Ive tried the shorter sessions brother. Became more like a cardio session with weights to failure, but still not as heavy as I like to train. I like to rest longer and get in the extra reps. Seems to work best for me. Metabolism is still pretty fast. Not as fast as it once was though. I can still drop 5lbs a day by not eating enough. ThanX for the feedback!
 
georgie24 said:
ok so everybody agree's that mac-n-cheese is semi ok in moderation?
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No...........I think we said it 100% depends on your goals, genetic structure, etc...........some can eat it and not gain a pound, others will look at it and get fat.....if you want to stay lean, 90% of people should stay away.......if you don't care about packing on some pounds, enjoy. Pretty simple.
 
NJRipped said:
Are you so arrogant that you believe that everyone would want your physique? Because that sure seems like the question asked below. Is it really so difficult for you to comprehend that someone would not want the amount of muscle mass you carry?

Do you think I couldn't go to the local juice factory and fill up? I'm not saying that I would look anything like you because neither of us has any idea what I would look like juiced to the gills. My point is that I could gain muscle mass - and probably make great gains with my diet. I'm sure I could gain at least 25lbs of muscle mass. Well, why don't I then - because I don't want it and don't find it to be aesthetically pleasing.
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What a fucktard... I forgot what he posted on this thread... I've been hitting him with red on a totally different thread, with the hopes of it banning him eventually.

Get off of our site toothpick. Just because you are fairly lean, doesn't make you a bodybuilder, all of us who compete are leaner and harder at show time. Lay off the hgh, your gut is sticking out too much already... get your aids infected physique off of our board.
 
Bodybycrisco provides the perfect example of the reason an education is so important today. Without an education, your verbal skills will be limited to using terms like "fucktard" and threatening people with "red." Remember, all you need to surpass his intellectual capacity is to obtain your GED.

BodyByFinaplix said:
What a fucktard... I forgot what he posted on this thread... I've been hitting him with red on a totally different thread, with the hopes of it banning him eventually.
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georgie24 said:
it turned into a who has a bigger penis thread. bbf just email him your snake so he can settle down..
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Well, I heard a rumor somewhere that mac & cheese makes your man meat grow.

Anywho, I only mail my penis pics to women and foxygel... not every gay guy who wishes to see it... so he'll have to do without.
 
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