M1T. How good is this stuff?

[biteme]

I have been take 350 mgs of enanthate a week for a couple years now. Is there another alternative that will work as well? Legal alternative that is. What are these powders you guys are talking about baking?

 

[Razorguns]

25mg/day with creatine -- it was a'ight. Small but noticable gains. Worth the low cost. You're adding testosterone to your body. How can bad can it be??

 

[macrophage69alpha]

how good is it? MHO ...not good.

its strong. its a likely progestin. its suppressive.

IMHO it unsafe, untested and with numerous unknown long and short term side effects. Liver damage and cancers being of chief concern- these are found with other orals (even without elevated numbers)- many of the discarded orals (ones that did not make it to market- these occurances were unnacceptably high)- this oral was not even discarded- so there is no safety or testing data.

 

[biteme]

how good is it? MHO ...not good.

its strong. its a likely progestin. its suppressive.

IMHO it unsafe, untested and with numerous unknown long and short term side effects. Liver damage and cancers being of chief concern- these are found with other orals (even without elevated numbers)- many of the discarded orals (ones that did not make it to market- these occurances were unnacceptably high)- this oral was not even discarded- so there is no safety or testing data.

Thanks! I assume that's probably the case with test oh, oxanavar, and the rest as well?

 

[georgie24]

some guy killed himself with m1t. its very toxic

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Thanks! I assume that's probably the case with test oh, oxanavar, and the rest as well?

4-hydroxy test has been tested clinically. its a weak aromatase inhibitor.


with respect to the rest. essentially yes.. though obviously some will be more benign than others. M1T has the widest use, and also appears to be one of the "worst"... appears.... however, one imagines that the civil ramifications of its sale and subsequent "harms" will be immense.

 

[x_muscle]

how good is it? MHO ...not good.

its strong. its a likely progestin. its suppressive.

IMHO it unsafe, untested and with numerous unknown long and short term side effects. Liver damage and cancers being of chief concern- these are found with other orals (even without elevated numbers)- many of the discarded orals (ones that did not make it to market- these occurances were unnacceptably high)- this oral was not even discarded- so there is no safety or testing data.

isnt that the case with anadrol/tren/ halo..........ect

most AAS has the risks your talking about, and some of them are used only in animals like EQ with no human testing.

i personaly used M1T 20mg with results better 30mg of dbol, and i didnt have that harsh sides people talking about. most people are knocking this product off simply because its legal.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

isnt that the case with anadrol/tren/ halo..........ect

most AAS has the risks your talking about,

only orals.

anadrol, halotest, stan, var all have undergone extensive testing with respect to the liver. anadrol and halo have low incidence of liver cancers-

many of the steroids along the path, literally thousands, did not make the "cut".

many of the oral because of liver toxicity and incidence of cancers in animal models.

with respect to effects- there are a number of people that have reported m1t to be equal or superior to dbol. however most of them, you being an exception, reported that the sides were much harsher.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

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