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Lowest Dosage of Test With Tren

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I know alot of you say don't do tren for the first cycle but I was thinking of maybe trying and seeing what would happen (test rat).

anyhow what would be the lowest dosage of test i could take with this to negate the dick side effects. and if i was doing such a small ammount of test included with the tren how much tren should i take eod. usual 75 mg. my diet will be in check and i will be doing loads of cardio. thanks in advance pussies :).

6'1 226 11-13% bf looking to shred fat gain lbm.
 
Phaded said:
I know alot of you say don't do tren for the first cycle but I was thinking of maybe trying and seeing what would happen (test rat).

anyhow what would be the lowest dosage of test i could take with this to negate the dick side effects. and if i was doing such a small ammount of test included with the tren how much tren should i take eod. usual 75 mg. my diet will be in check and i will be doing loads of cardio. thanks in advance pussies :).

6'1 226 11-13% bf looking to shred fat gain lbm.
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at 226, I'd say the lowest would be 200mgs per week
 
not that I'm agreeing with your choice in first cycles, but it's probably pointless to try and talk you out of it, so having said that,

I'd say run 50mg's of prop eod along with the tren. I don't see the need for proviron as was mentioned earlier. The prop should take care of your libido and at that low of a dose there shouldn't be a need for an antiaromatase like proviron. Also, the tren should harden you up pretty good so you don't need that benefit that proviron is known for.
 
Apexx said:
not that I'm agreeing with your choice in first cycles, but it's probably pointless to try and talk you out of it, so having said that,

I'd say run 50mg's of prop eod along with the tren. I don't see the need for proviron as was mentioned earlier. The prop should take care of your libido and at that low of a dose there shouldn't be a need for an antiaromatase like proviron. Also, the tren should harden you up pretty good so you don't need that benefit that proviron is known for.
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I can understand your point however, tren is known for shutting the majority of people down even with the added test. Remember that tren is related to nandrolone. Proviron has prevent the shut down in all my clients consistently. It can't hurt.
 
Makavelli said:
I can understand your point however, tren is known for shutting the majority of people down even with the added test. Remember that tren is related to nandrolone. Proviron has prevent the shut down in all my clients consistently. It can't hurt.
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I just feel that if the libido issue did come up then he could bump the prop dosage. First of all because it's less expensive, secondly because he could enjoy the added gains that the extra test will give him.

I'm pickin up what you're puttin down though. It wouldn't hurt to add the proviron.
 
Probably 0MG per week, if u used Dostinex along with the cycle. You coudl probably get away with 200MG per week of cyp. If I was doing this, I would probably just use Cyp, at 200MG per week I dont see much water retention happening.
 
As you're probably starting to gather from the people on the board, tren is not a good choice for a first cycle. You have no idea how you'll react to steroids and tren is frought with every bad side known to man. Acne, blood pressure, aggression, hair loss. It's the poster child steroid for the media.
I would suggest 500mg/wk of test for a first cycle. Do that for 8 weeks, recover, and then go for tren.
 
well i actually want to stay away from test and was originally thinking eq/var 400 mg a week and 50 mg a day with proper pct.. but this is very expensive which is why i thought i'd settle to just use tren and take the bad with the good... eq/var bad idea for first cycle as well?
 
Lol. you guys know how i type... realy fast..lol...that is one of the better mistakes i have made usualy its over 2 in a sentance:)

Hel man im jsut giving you my advice becouse i care, if you want to try tren first cycle so bad ts fine by me....hell you can even do a gram a week...just lettin gyou know that is not something i for one recomend..for a first cycle no matter if your 300 lbs @3% bf and been training for 10 yrs
 
PolfaJelfa said:
Lol. you guys know how i type... realy fast..lol...that is one of the better mistakes i have made usualy its over 2 in a sentance:)

Hel man im jsut giving you my advice becouse i care, if you want to try tren first cycle so bad ts fine by me....hell you can even do a gram a week...just lettin gyou know that is not something i for one recomend..for a first cycle no matter if your 300 lbs @3% bf and been training for 10 yrs
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I agree, I make that spelling mistake a lot I was just messing with you.

Even a lot of vets that havent used tren are still scared of it, I do think its a poor choice for a first cycle. Ulter has some good words of wisdom.
 
so i can maybe keep my hair and from what i read about eq/var it can do what i'd like to accomplish pure lbm
 
You need to read some more. EQ is just as hard on your hair as test. EQ is very close to being liquid dbol. It won't aromatize much though. There is not much point in adding var to EQ/tren. You'll never notice it. Also, aggression on EQ without test is a problem for many.
If you're worried about your hair then your choices are really limited to nandrolone. If you're stuck on using the token test with tren/eq then keep the test at 200mg like others have posted. That's about twice what your body makes naturally and shouldn't have much hairloss effect.
 
since ulter is the man i'll prob. go test enan 500 mg first 10 weeks first cycle with proper pct thanks
 
good decision Phaded. tren was my 2nd cycle and was still hard to adjust to difficulty sleeping and extreme agression. Tren is a hard love
 
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