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Lower Back Pumps WTF?

Mrpumped

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I get them after doing squats, deadlifts and cardio. I get so fucking pumped that I can barely walk. I'm on 500mg of Test E. I take 1 pump of AIFM eod. I've never had it bad like this before the cycle. I did get lower back pumps from doing deadlifts and hyper-extensions before, but now even from squats and walking on treadmill. It also never happened from cardio before. I obviously know it's from the test but is there anything I can do about it, or is this this normal from an all test cycle?
 
I don't like to hear lower back pumps when you are doing squats. In my mind, that sounds like an injury waiting to happen.

If its not due to bad form, then I would up your AIFM. 1 pump EOD is nothing. I was doing 2 pumps twice a day. At least try 2 pumps a day and see what happens.

Make sure your diet is sodium free and your water intake is high..
 
JuicedAthletics said:
I don't like to hear lower back pumps when you are doing squats. In my mind, that sounds like an injury waiting to happen.

If its not due to bad form, then I would up your AIFM. 1 pump EOD is nothing. I was doing 2 pumps twice a day. At least try 2 pumps a day and see what happens.

Make sure your diet is sodium free and your water intake is high..

The pump from the suats is little in comparison to the rest. But I will up the dose on the aifm, I use a little bit of salt on my eggs in the morning but that is it. I drink about 1 gallon of water per day so I'll up that to 1 1/2 gallons for now and go from there. Thanks bro, I appreciate it.
 
keep your lower abs tight all day and while lifting, it may help.

And make sure you don't neglect ab strength training (weighted decline crunches). I know from experience how it can screw up your lower back.
 
JuicedAthletics said:
I don't like to hear lower back pumps when you are doing squats. In my mind, that sounds like an injury waiting to happen.

If its not due to bad form, then I would up your AIFM. 1 pump EOD is nothing. I was doing 2 pumps twice a day. At least try 2 pumps a day and see what happens.

Make sure your diet is sodium free and your water intake is high..


I must say I agree with you on the injury waiting to happen. Either you have a pre existing injury to your spine which is aggravated by the squats, form is off

I also think perhaps you should read up on potassium
 
armo72 said:
how is increased AIFM going to help?

estrogenic fluid retention is a common cause of "back pumps", though form may be a factor as well as hamstring inflexibility.

sodium and potassium intake as well as hydration are factors (as relates to fluid retention in particular estrogen related retention)

1 pump eod is low for on cycle, though not unheard of (some people only have minimal aromatase activity and/or prefer higher estrogen levels).

would increase to 2 pumps ED, you can back off after a couple days if thats what you prefer.
 
I suffer from this too and I've yet to find any solution to it. It's unrelated to exercise form and I even get it when going for a walk while on. I suffer less from it on test than I do from Deca and dbol. Even tbol and var do it to me, so I'm reasonably sure that it's not oestrogenic. Do you get shin pumps/splints too?

The usual recommendations are potassium. zinc, calcium and increased water intake. Lowering your dosage might help otherwise keep looking for a hormone that doesn't bother you as much or learn to live with it. I've known guys who avoid tren because of crippling back pumps and others who are happy to writhe on the ground between sets because it's worth it.

Stretching out hamstrings will, typically, remove some tension from the lower back and stretching out calves will take some tension away from shins if they also bother you. A tennis ball can be a useful massage aid, either on the floor or up against a wall. Be careful not to bruise yourself with it.
 
blut wump said:
I suffer from this too and I've yet to find any solution to it. It's unrelated to exercise form and I even get it when going for a walk while on. I suffer less from it on test than I do from Deca and dbol. Even tbol and var do it to me, so I'm reasonably sure that it's not oestrogenic. Do you get shin pumps/splints too?

The usual recommendations are potassium. zinc, calcium and increased water intake. Lowering your dosage might help otherwise keep looking for a hormone that doesn't bother you as much or learn to live with it. I've known guys who avoid tren because of crippling back pumps and others who are happy to writhe on the ground between sets because it's worth it.

Stretching out hamstrings will, typically, remove some tension from the lower back and stretching out calves will take some tension away from shins if they also bother you. A tennis ball can be a useful massage aid, either on the floor or up against a wall. Be careful not to bruise yourself with it.

I'm going to look into my potassium intake and tweak it a bit and begining today I'm uping the water from 1 gallon to 1 1/2 gallons/day. I know it's not my form either. Like you, if I'm walking(ie cardio, playing with the kids) I begin to feel the pump. I do not get the shin pumps or splints, but my calves get pumped by the time I'm done with a 20 minute walk. I'm just going to pay more attention to my supplementation with the zinc, potassium, calcium and the stretching like a couple of you have suggested and I will also make sure I get the extra water as well. Macro, I'm going to also try the 2 pumps/day and tweak it from there, Guys, thanks so far for all your help. I'll post back up within a week or so about this and state any changes that take place.
 
Mrpumped said:
I'm going to look into my potassium intake and tweak it a bit and begining today I'm uping the water from 1 gallon to 1 1/2 gallons/day. I know it's not my form either. Like you, if I'm walking(ie cardio, playing with the kids) I begin to feel the pump. I do not get the shin pumps or splints, but my calves get pumped by the time I'm done with a 20 minute walk. I'm just going to pay more attention to my supplementation with the zinc, potassium, calcium and the stretching like a couple of you have suggested and I will also make sure I get the extra water as well. Macro, I'm going to also try the 2 pumps/day and tweak it from there, Guys, thanks so far for all your help. I'll post back up within a week or so about this and state any changes that take place.

Potassium:Sodium ratio is the key brotha.. I guarantee it! When I addressed that problem my back pumps went right away.. Good luck and keep us posted!

T-Matt
 
blut wump said:
I take taurine 2x per day. It hasn't ever helped with back pumps.

Interesting. It alleviated mine, although I did all 3 of the above at the same time (upped my potassium, started taurine and upped water) so it may not ahve actually been the taurine.
 
Taurine may have an impact, reducing cramping (which often occurs with the back pump, even a mild reduction in full contractility can make a difference). though would say that potassium and water intake likely played a more significant role in this particular aspect/issue.
 
MacDaddy:

how much potassium to remedy that? I supplement 99mg (Pot. Chelate) caps with 3 meals a day...

I find myself laying on the floor inbetween sets often...sucks.

And shin pumps on the treadmill impeed my cardio big time, i have to stop once they come on.

(it's not my water, i drink up to 2 gals a day... i'd say 1.5 gal on average)
 
macrophage69alpha said:
its not just how much potassium (reccomend adding a gram throughout the day), but also how much sodium (reducing the sodium is also important)
Yeah you're probably right about the sodium.

Cool, i'll bump my potassium up 2 caps 3x a day for now along with being more aware of my sodium intake as well.

Thanks Macro! :)
 
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