Low dose test all year round

[Thom]

Hey
Other than shutting down your own production completely, what's the bad sides of replacing own production of test with, say, 100mg test E ew?
Pros and cons?

thanks
Thom

 

[Tweakle]

100 ew would be a waste of time.. 250 as a minimum (yeah I know some HRT guys go lower but the point is to get some returns for shutting yourself down for life)

 

[Mr.X]

Hey
Other than shutting down your own production completely, what's the bad sides of replacing own production of test with, say, 100mg test E ew?
Pros and cons?

thanks
Thom

con = bad for you, will increase chance of DEATH since liver problems and kidney problems would top that list, 100mgs EW??? you'd need at least 400mgs to make it worth your time.

pro = you'll be on test year round, and you could do a permanent lat spread , year round

 

[help4john]

Thom.....do you really want to start self-administered HRT? Is there a problem.....or are you just wanting to poke all year? If there is no diagnosis for low test levels.....you are begging for future problems that can only be curred with medication.....life-long. Is it worth the risk? Not for me.

 

[Thom]

no I'm just being courious.
thanks for your answers

 

[sparetire]

what about primo low dose year round? lol. I know i started a big thread on this, but this was never mentioned about future problems. btw, how long can a primo cycle be ran for? 20 weeks at 400mg?

 

[tommboy]

Guys, would you still be shutting yourself down forever if you hit HCG up every 8 weeks???

 

[tommboy]

Guys, would you still be shutting yourself down forever if you hit HCG up every 8 weeks???

yea

 

[borg4902]

What if you ran hcg throughout like ever 4 days, Mr X?

 

[psychedout]

con = bad for you, will increase chance of DEATH since liver problems and kidney problems would top that list, 100mgs EW??? you'd need at least 400mgs to make it worth your time.

pro = you'll be on test year round, and you could do a permanent lat spread , year round

Liver and kidney problems from test? Maybe from orals, ancilaries, supps, etc, but from test? I just don't know if I agree man.

The whole point of 100mg of test per week as TRT is that that is the dose that can be issued with minimal impact on the lipid profile. Anything above 200mg gets shady, especially if you need an anti-estrogen.

I guess if I have one productive thing to say though, if you do decide to do it, please get bloodwork done regularly. Full hormonal pallet included.

 

[Dial_tone]

Liver and kidney problems from test? Maybe from orals, ancilaries, supps, etc, but from test? I just don't know if I agree man.

The whole point of 100mg of test per week as TRT is that that is the dose that can be issued with minimal impact on the lipid profile. Anything above 200mg gets shady, especially if you need an anti-estrogen.

I think that's the dose that gets most people into the normal/high range. I hit 40 this year so I've been doing 250mg since December with regular shots of hcg and some ancillaries.

 

[galaxy]

How is your lipid profile looking? Specifically hdl?..........I myself dont believe 125mgs of test ew would cause any problems. I thought research showed it was even good for your heart. Personally I know it wouldnt give me liver or kidney problems cus ive taking alot more than a hrt dose and never had a problem there.

 

[Tux]

I'll definitely disagree with Mr.X. 100mg/week of test, or 250mg/week of test, will NOT increase his liver values or give him kidney problems, or increase chance of death. If it did that by ANY statistically significant margin, which is as little as 1% increase, then in the US HRT at 200mg/week would be banned, which it obviously isn't. If he holds water on 250/week of test... then possibly mildly higher BP could hurt his kidneys but that's extremely unlikely as well. Where are you getting your info from Mr. X?

 

[tommboy]

I'll definitely disagree with Mr.X. 100mg/week of test, or 250mg/week of test, will NOT increase his liver values or give him kidney problems, or increase chance of death. If it did that by ANY statistically significant margin, which is as little as 1% increase, then in the US HRT at 200mg/week would be banned, which it obviously isn't. If he holds water on 250/week of test... then possibly mildly higher BP could hurt his kidneys but that's extremely unlikely as well. Where are you getting your info from Mr. X?

Would you guys go with test? Or like primo or something else if you were going to do it to bridge..... Im experimenting right now with 250 mg test

 

[Dial_tone]

I'll definitely disagree with Mr.X. 100mg/week of test, or 250mg/week of test, will NOT increase his liver values or give him kidney problems, or increase chance of death. If it did that by ANY statistically significant margin, which is as little as 1% increase, then in the US HRT at 200mg/week would be banned, which it obviously isn't. If he holds water on 250/week of test... then possibly mildly higher BP could hurt his kidneys but that's extremely unlikely as well. Where are you getting your info from Mr. X?

If you watched that show on tv about the guy that tried HRT for 30 days his liver values were elevated after 3 weeks and his sperm count was zero. They never said how much but obviously it is possible. Whatever change there is should be easily controlled with r-ALA, Liv52 and/or Tyler's Liver Detox. If you're 35+ you need to be concerned with potential prostate enlargement as well. I believe next year I will do 250mg test and 200mg primo, IGF-1 and nothing else. I pretty much have all the size I want.

 

[hardrock]

If you watched that show on tv about the guy that tried HRT for 30 days his liver values were elevated after 3 weeks and his sperm count was zero. They never said how much but obviously it is possible. Whatever change there is should be easily controlled with r-ALA, Liv52 and/or Tyler's Liver Detox. If you're 35+ you need to be concerned with potential prostate enlargement as well. I believe next year I will do 250mg test and 200mg primo, IGF-1 and nothing else. I pretty much have all the size I want.

Are you forgetting he was taking a cocktail of 42 pills a day along with his shots. He even dropped the puills towards the end and his levels started improving. 42 pills is a lot for anyone. On or off.