low dose, fewer injections

[d3track]

ok guys, give me some ideas of what to look at

i have never used before, but i am now getting closer to the point of using
so i am gonna start doing a little more than the general research i have been doing

when i start AAS, I am thinkg of going with pretty low doses and as few injections as possible

some options I am thinking of:

sust250
Tren
Winny

if i can stick to a pin a week or less, that would be great
money is an issue as well

Can you guys give me any others to look into?

 

[hammertime30]

You have to run tren at least every 3 days and that's if you are using the longer ester...sust250 you also have to inject twice a week so with the ones you've chosen, a pin a week isn't going to work...Now, if you choose deca, EQ and test cyp or ent then you can get away with once per week!

 

[d3track]

thanks man
thats what i was looking for

although i have read on some sites about using sust once a week, thats not really true?

 

[hammertime30]

thanks man
thats what i was looking for

although i have read on some sites about using sust once a week, thats not really true?

Sus250 has 1 short ester, 1 long ester and 2 medium esters. So with the long ester yes you can get away with 1 weekly dosage, however to get the full benefit of the shorter esters you need at least 2. I'm not a big fan of Sus250...I either go with test prop or cyp and call it a day!

 

[season7445]

Probably shouldnt run tren in your first cycle but that is up to you.
You will get great gains out of 500mg/w of test. Maybe add some dbol @ 30mg/d the first 4-5 weeks to get your gains jump started. Just my .02

Season7445

 

[Apexx]

Here's a list of AAS half lives to help you figure things out as far as injection / dosage frequency.

AAS Half-Lives and Detection Times

Clen 1.5 days
halo 9-10 hours
anavar 9 hours
anadrol 7-15 hours
susp 2-3 hours
primo 5-7 days
stanazol 9 hours (oral)
arimidex 3 days
dbol 4.5 hours
clomid 5 days

Ester Half-life

formate 1.5 days
acetate 3 days
propionate 4.5 days
phenylprop 4.5 days
butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 10.5 days
caproate 9 days
isocaproate 9 days
heptonoate 10.5 days
enathate 10.5 days
octanoate 12 days
cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

But like these guys said, 500mg of test-enanthate per week

 

[hammertime30]

Probably shouldnt run tren in your first cycle but that is up to you.
You will get great gains out of 500mg/w of test. Maybe add some dbol @ 30mg/d the first 4-5 weeks to get your gains jump started. Just my .02

Season7445

If you go with test only...please at least add dbol or else you will just be sitting back waiting on your 2nd cycle to make some real gains...Guys we need to rethink the test only cycle advice for too many people are getting disappointed from test only cycles!

 

[Apexx]

If you go with test only...please at least add dbol or else you will just be sitting back waiting on your 2nd cycle to make some real gains...Guys we need to rethink the test only cycle advice for too many people are getting disappointed from test only cycles!

what's up hammer?
I'm sure there are a ton of people who don't respond well to test, but
there are just as many (if not more) people who do respond well to it.
I respond great to test. Now you're a big fan of eq, I just got over a 14
week cycle and wasn't that impressed.
I just think it's better to start off with test to see how you react. If it's not
for you, then so be it. I don't know anyone who has only done one cycle. So why not start off with the basics because there are going to be plenty of cycles in the future. But hey, that's just my opinion

 

[hammertime30]

what's up hammer?
I'm sure there are a ton of people who don't respond well to test, but
there are just as many (if not more) people who do respond well to it.
I respond great to test. Now you're a big fan of eq, I just got over a 14
week cycle and wasn't that impressed.
I just think it's better to start off with test to see how you react. If it's not
for you, then so be it. I don't know anyone who has only done one cycle. So why not start off with the basics because there are going to be plenty of cycles in the future. But hey, that's just my opinion

Actually I'm not a big fan of EQ went it comes to muscle building, but love it when it comes down to solidifying gains. If someone comes to me and says hey dude try test for 12 weeks and see what happens and someone else says hey dude run 300mg test with 250mg of deca for 12 weeks because you will insure greater gains...which would you do?....Being that you are going to run a cycle 3 months and then can't run another one for another 3 months...I would want to get as much from the first one as possible. Because when you think about it, if a person response well to test, he's going to respond to the 300mg regardless thus stacking it increases the probability of being satisfied the first time! It's a fact that stacking compounds increases the effectiveness...Am I right?

 

[Supr4Vegeta]

When you say you're worried about cost......Are you worried about the cost of the gear when it's all said and done? Or whatever you may need to go with it?

It sounded to me like you were worried about the cost of the pins. If you're just wanting to keep it to once a week because you dont like the idea of stickin' yourself........dont worry about it......you'll start to look forward to it