low dose deca = regular dose npp?

[chestmaster1]

Everybodies saying how they love npp, they get no sides and no bloat like they do with deca. So wouldn't a low dose deca around 150-200mg/week eventually after around 4-6 weeks lead up to the same blood levels as someone doing around 100mg eod of npp. Does anyone have a half-life sheet that could help figure out the exact dose needed of deca to equal the same blood concentration levels of 150mg eod of npp. logic on this is that with deca, your levels of nandrolone, even though you are taking less every week they are a lot higher then with npp due to the slow release of the deconate ester. I feel that the reason for the lack of sides with npp is the lower concentration levels in the blood due to the shorter ester so if you can figure out a dose of deca that will do the same you will have deca with the sides of npp

 

[mattrich]

Everybodies saying how they love npp, they get no sides and no bloat like they do with deca. So wouldn't a low dose deca around 150-200mg/week eventually after around 4-6 weeks lead up to the same blood levels as someone doing around 100mg eod of npp. Does anyone have a half-life sheet that could help figure out the exact dose needed of deca to equal the same blood concentration levels of 150mg eod of npp. logic on this is that with deca, your levels of nandrolone, even though you are taking less every week they are a lot higher then with npp due to the slow release of the deconate ester. I feel that the reason for the lack of sides with npp is the lower concentration levels in the blood due to the shorter ester so if you can figure out a dose of deca that will do the same you will have deca with the sides of npp

my 1st cycle was deca only, 200mg/week for 8 weeks. i gained approx 30lb with no bloat and have kept pretty much all gains. it did shut me down after cycle with no pct though.

 

[chestmaster1]

my 1st cycle was deca only, 200mg/week for 8 weeks. i gained approx 30lb with no bloat and have kept pretty much all gains. it did shut me down after cycle with no pct though.

nice, so that goes along with the theory then. my first cyce was deca around 350mg/week and gained 25 pounds, was bloated, and gained more fat then I would've liked to.

 

[blut wump]

By my calculations, 350mg of Deca shot E7D would average about the same degree of daily uptake of nandrolone as 100mg EOD of NPP. Obviously, due to the long half-life of the Deca, circulating levels of the esterified hormone would be much higher on the Deca than on the NPP. It would also take longer to reach stable levels and the decay takes much longer at the end of the cycle. Furthermore, blood levels of nandrolone would be much more even taking EOD shots of NPP as compared with E7D shots of Deca.

 

[chestmaster1]

By my calculations, 350mg of Deca shot E7D would average about the same degree of daily uptake of nandrolone as 100mg EOD of NPP. Obviously, due to the long half-life of the Deca, circulating levels of the esterified hormone would be much higher on the Deca than on the NPP. It would also take longer to reach stable levels and the decay takes much longer at the end of the cycle. Furthermore, blood levels of nandrolone would be much more even taking EOD shots of NPP as compared with E7D shots of Deca.

thanks for the response, but I'm thinking it would be a lot lower of a dose to reach the same circulating hormone at the peak levels. I'm thinking that maybe cause phenylprop's half life is 3 days and deca is 7 days that you need less then half of the deca a week to equal the same amount. so 600mg week npp = 250mg deca anybody?

 

[blut wump]

Of what relevance is amount of circulating esterified hormone? The only figure that matters is daily uptake from the decay of the ester into raw hormone, which is what I calculated for.

Your guestimate is probably quite close but it'll take about a month to get there with the Deca and it's not relevant anyway.

 

[chestmaster1]

Of what relevance is amount of circulating esterified hormone? The only figure that matters is daily uptake from the decay of the ester into raw hormone, which is what I calculated for.

Your guestimate is probably quite close but it'll take about a month to get there with the Deca and it's not relevant anyway.

I'm just thinking that 350mg/week of deca by week 5 the amount of nandrolone would be a lot higher then 600mg/week npp at week 5 and thus create unwanted sides.

 

[blut wump]

No. The ester weight on each is about the same so the amount of nandrolone in 350 of NPP is about the same as that in 350 of Deca. The different build-up and release due to the different esters only stretches out the two ends of the cycle but the amounts released during the stable portion of the cycle will be about the same. Also, the total amounts released over the entire duration of the cycles will be about the same.

 

[Knight9]

ya, youve got it wrong in your thinking buddy. why would you run deca anyways? no matter how slow you build the decanoate ester up....it will still take a long time to clear once it has been built up...leading to the libido issues.

 

[ganador14424]

Will 50 mg of Deca do anything at all if I'm cycling it with HGH twice weekly?

 

[mwm5]

just like short ester test not causing as much bloat, short ester deca is the same.

 

[needtogetaas]

my 1st cycle was deca only, 200mg/week for 8 weeks. i gained approx 30lb with no bloat and have kept pretty much all gains. it did shut me down after cycle with no pct though.

HI HI thats about the same for me bro... But shit I was so young back then.. The pct is a must now.