Lots of pain while cutting

[dce2956]

hey guys,

I've been cutting for about 3 weeks now, and I've developed a lot of pain, especially in my knee and hip flexors. I haven't squatted for a week because of this, and it's killing me not to. I've been really good about my form when im squatting and I go well below 90 degrees, ass to calves (i can't hit the ground...). Anyone know where this pain could be coming from? I'm only 20, so it's certianly not age.

 

[AhMadKooL]

Are you taking any gear? Stuff like winstrol cause joint pain.

 

[musketeer]

Are you warming down and stretching properly - makes a big dif. if you are not?

 

[dce2956]

I'm not on any gear, and i've been stretching, but probably not enough. I'll give that a whirl and see if it helps.

 

[thelion2005]

I'm not on any gear, and i've been stretching, but probably not enough. I'll give that a whirl and see if it helps.

Ride a stationary bike for 15 minutes first ... light setting .... set it so your ankles, knees and hips get a lot of light work. Keep the stretching very calm and light with slow breathing.

Same pain on the leg press?

 

[musketeer]

Do developmental stretching at the end of your workout. Take the stretching as seriously (or nearly) as your poundage goals. I found swimming and hot baths to also be great for my tight sore knees and back.

 

[cubuff27]

Stretching won't do squat if you aren't properly warmed up so doing it at the end of the workout is much more beneficial than at the beginning so it most likely isn't going to help the pain. Proper warm-up most likely will. Hitting the bike or better yet the elispsical for a few minutes and then don't be afraid to do 2-3 warm up sets in the 15-20 range before getting busy.

 

[musketeer]

Stretching won't do squat if you aren't properly warmed up so doing it at the end of the workout is much more beneficial than at the beginning so it most likely isn't going to help the pain. Proper warm-up most likely will. Hitting the bike or better yet the elispsical for a few minutes and then don't be afraid to do 2-3 warm up sets in the 15-20 range before getting busy.

You are missing the point. If you stretch a muscle after working out, you do a few positive things:

1 Open the facia help flush out the lactate and other negative catabolites that build up in the muscle during near maximal exercise.

2 Which allows fresh blood in to carry the oxygen and repairing metabolites that induce recovery.

3 And (most importantly in this case) relax the tendons which tend to remain tight and rigid.

Tendons grow with muscles and will get thicker and tighter with more load and volume. Stretching the muscles after working them out keeps them elastic and healthy, and encourages healthy joint function.

In dce's case, the knee and hip are suffering, and I'm willing to bet that a few weeks of good quality developmental stretching and a few sessions in the pool will do a world of good.

Maybe some ibuprophen/ voltarol will aslo help get the inflamation down a little.

 

[coolcolj]

take fish oil - lots

 

[dce2956]

muskateer, when you say pool work, do you mean laps, or just relaxing and kinda messin around for a while? I can't imagine doing more work will help me. I've tried to cut down on my running the day after i squat, and running in general, and thats been helping. The knees aren't bad anymore, but the hip flexor muscles and the very top part of the quad (where it connects to your hip) are still sore once i try and do a squat, even at 135 lbs. Is there really a good stretch for the hip flexors?

 

[musketeer]

Yeah, Lie on your front and use your arms to elevate your upper body but keep your hips and knees pressed to the mat. This also stretches the lower back and abs. Then do the pretzel stretch (ask somone - I cant be bothered to type it all!) The do the standing quad stretch where your foot is by you ass and you stand stratght and lean back. Then (if you are flexible enough) kneel (on a pad/matt for your knees sake) and lean backwards until you are as far back as possible. I can get my back all of the way to the mat. Then do another standing quad stretch where you bend you knee and bring your foot back to your butt, but you brace the foot with your toes on something about waist height ( I like to use the head of an incline bench or the bar on a bench press rack). supporting your weight on the other leg, slowly lower you body and allow the bent leg to be pulled slowly back. I tore a quad doing this so I know that it really works!

Hold each stretch in the deepest position for at least 30 seconds, taking about 1-2 minutes to reach that deepest point.

OH and the swimming, I meant laps but it's OK to mess around too, I guess. I enjoy doing swimming because it is excellent cardio.

Swimming allows you to work the muscles without tightening them up - unlike just about every other activity. It also gets your core up to shape quickly too; which is where most BBers are lacking. If practical, I would swim every day!

GOOD LUCK!