Losers & Winners

[Norman Bates]

Since all the talk about being a loser and a winner, what does make the difference?

It seems to me as if losers are quite pessimistic all the time.

 

[Lord_Suston]

that and

having a small dick, plus never having a girl... weighing 120lbs soaking wet, not having enough social grace to go in public.....

 

[Norman Bates]

Seems like low self esteem mostly.

 

[Lord_Suston]

this is true most of the time... People to me are losers if they don't act with intelligence or sincerety.... Most losers just want attention and people to say "you're not a loser, look how great...blah blah bla..." Fuck them if you need people to compliment you all the time you are a LOSER!!!!!

 

[Norman Bates]

Fishing for compliments is probably the last thing one should do.
I wonder what makes a man in the eyes of a woman to a loser.
Maybe some girl can fill us in?

 

[Lord_Suston]

I would like to know

All i have ever heard is the guy needs to be confident, and bathe on a regular basis...

 

[Norman Bates]

Damn it, i use only the shower

 

[salviadro]

I think you can be a loser if you just dont fit in with society, or the way things work. Either you conform or become a loser.

 

[Norman Bates]

Good point, people are rejected if the are not conform with the norms of the group.That´s why i discuss religion mostly on the inet.

Would you go conform to be accepted?

 

[bigschweeler]

It's all about attitude.

For example, I'm on the golf course approaching an 8 foot put.

I'm a winner if I think - "I'm going to make this putt!"

I'm a loser if I think - "I can't make this putt, but I hope I get it close and I hope I two putt."

Even in the first if you miss the putt, or lose at something, you still have a winning attitude and a much better chance of actually winning then you do if you take the loser approach.

 

[Norman Bates]

That reminds me , it seems as if some hobbies are already related with loser or winner.

If you are too much into star trek or role playing you are considered a loser in Krautania.

While if you are good in soccer you are rather considered a winner.

Is it similiar in the US?

 

[bigschweeler]

If you are too much into star trek or role playing you are considered a loser in Krautania.

I think that view is probably international.

 

[Lord_Suston]

you don't need to conform to be a winner... I know many of the things I do are not accepted by the public but it is my attitude that keeps me from being a loser....

 

[salviadro]

What if you think golf is gay

 

[salviadro]

Or what if instead of making the shot i want to hit things with the gold club and drive the golf cart into a lake? Would that make me a loser?

 

[bigschweeler]

you don't need to conform to be a winner... I know many of the things I do are not accepted by the public but it is my attitude that keeps me from being a loser....

Amen! The idea that if you are a non-conformist you are a loser is seriously retarded.

 

[Norman Bates]

Or what if instead of making the shot i want to hit things with the gold club

Nah, that would make you a psycho

 

[salviadro]

"Amen! The idea that if you are a non-conformist you are a loser is seriously retarded."

I mean somtimes.

 

[bigschweeler]

I mean somtimes.

Sure. In certain cases.

 

[Norman Bates]

Sometimes the rebels are considered winners also.

 

[salviadro]

Sometimes the rebels are considered winners also.

hhhmmmmm, good point.

 

[Lao Tzu]

That reminds me , it seems as if some hobbies are already related with loser or winner.

If you are too much into star trek or role playing you are considered a loser in Krautania.

While if you are good in soccer you are rather considered a winner.

Is it similiar in the US?

Fuck no. here in america star trek viewers and dungeons & dragons fans are lauded as intellectuals, and those who engage in sports are derided as brainless. Ask anyone.


As far as your original question, i think it is conditioning. Plus, i think everyone has self doubts. I look at those who think they are losers, and they aren't any more fucked up than everybody else. They just tell themselves 'i am a loser' all the time.

 

[Norman Bates]

I´ll remember that when i visit the US . Does any1 where i can order chainmails and a long sword of the nerd +4 ?