looking for some gains

[93formula]

been thinking lately about trying out some of primo labs stuff i did a search on here.

but what would you guys recomend from previous experience would benifit me the most.

looking for gains in size and definition, reduction of fat as well.

winstrol? anavor? parabol? anadroll? dianobol? dekka? they have so much to offer, which is why im confused.

ive been lifting for a long time, my main supplements thus far has only been whey protien, with on/off cycles of creatine and glutamine. right now the only addition im taking is protien. looking for something other then what i can find at a local GNC.

not looking for an injectible.

and with whatever you guys mention, what are the losses when i come off the product?

thanks for all the help, this is the first time im venturing off the health food store stuff.

 

[shamrock11]

Just get some Test Euthanate and do 400mg per week for ten weeks and proper PCT and you be where you want to be. You'll put on some quality muscle. You can lose some fat just by good diet and cardio tweeks. Hope this helps.

 

[93formula]

what is that? where/what website can it be found? the reason i asked about stuff from primo labs is because they have a canadian warehouse.

and if this stuff is over the counter i apologize for my ignorance,LOL

 

[Extra_Strong]

what is that? where/what website can it be found? the reason i asked about stuff from primo labs is because they have a canadian warehouse.

and if this stuff is over the counter i apologize for my ignorance,LOL

what web site? are you looking for a source.. no no bad boy ... spank

 

[93formula]

what web site? are you looking for a source.. no no bad boy ... spank

i take it its not allowed on here, LOL.

 

[LVTitan]

what is that? where/what website can it be found? the reason i asked about stuff from primo labs is because they have a canadian warehouse.

and if this stuff is over the counter i apologize for my ignorance,LOL

bro you got a lot of research to do before putting anything 'other than health food stuff' in your body.
it's spelled " deca " , and if you dont even know what the compounds are that have been mentioned you have no business using them. i'm not flaming you man, just learn, get 'anabolics 2005' and read it. and go thru these forums and just read, you will be suprised what you can learn by reading these threads and i guarantee, any question you wanna ask has already been asked and answered many times

especially yours: no injectables, i want a magic pill that will make me lean and put on mass and get vascular w/no sides and no losses.

 

[93formula]

bro you got a lot of research to do before putting anything 'other than health food stuff' in your body.
it's spelled " deca " , and if you dont even know what the compounds are that have been mentioned you have no business using them. i'm not flaming you man, just learn, get 'anabolics 2005' and read it. and go thru these forums and just read, you will be suprised what you can learn by reading these threads and i guarantee, any question you wanna ask has already been asked and answered many times

especially yours: no injectables, i want a magic pill that will make me lean and put on mass and get vascular w/no sides and no losses.

yeah thanks trying to learn. and i know its impossible to get mass without any side effects and losses, which is why id like to know what the losses/sideeffects are with each recomondation.

 

[asianlover]

here read this, this is what you first cycle should be. the dose will depend on your size and experience. if you have any other question let me know, i might be able to point you in the right direction

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catteste.htm

 

[Ozz2001]

Quote...not looking for an injectible

He said he didnt want to use needles but everyone is sending him that way..
Out of your list of orals id say dbol,naps. Ill pm you a link so i dont break rules. This will explain all the profiles on everything you want to know.Sometimes it gets busy but the link will work just have to try back..
Power is reading,then when you do something dum its all on yourself GL

 

[sweed]

but what would you guys recomend from previous experience would benifit me the most.

looking for gains in size and definition, reduction of fat as well.

not looking for an injectible.

and with whatever you guys mention, what are the losses when i come off the product?

- recommend you research some more about AS and pct that goes with it. First cycle should be test for best gains without over doing it for future cycles
-you want size and get definition and loose bf. well its either you gain or you loose... you can bulk up, then loose or other way around.
- not lookin for injectable. why not? its safe if used properly, it doesn't hurt, you;ll get better keeeepable gains than orals. think about it.
-if u dont do a cycle with pct, you loose a lot of your gains. with those orals u listed (besides deca) you'll prob keep about 5-10 (at most).

-research and learn.

 

[93formula]

- recommend you research some more about AS and pct that goes with it. First cycle should be test for best gains without over doing it for future cycles
-you want size and get definition and loose bf. well its either you gain or you loose... you can bulk up, then loose or other way around.
- not lookin for injectable. why not? its safe if used properly, it doesn't hurt, you;ll get better keeeepable gains than orals. think about it.
-if u dont do a cycle with pct, you loose a lot of your gains. with those orals u listed (besides deca) you'll prob keep about 5-10 (at most).

-research and learn.

thanks trying to research. i know you cant do both at once, gain and lose, my mind must have been asleep when i was typing this yesterday.

ill try and lose the fat first, in the mean time to some research into what i should take when im ready.

i dont want injectables, just because its kinda hard to hide that stuff from family and friends. they may think im taking heroin, LOL

the pills can be explained as "vitamins"

 

[LVTitan]

the pills are gonna be harder on your liver also. when are serious enough to be ready to join the darkside, you will have to be serious enough for the needle. it's not that bad. find a good hiding spot, i know you have things already you wouldn't want ur family to see, so be creative.
in my opinion the only place for orals is to be stacked into a cycle in the beginning or end for short term.

 

[93formula]

wheres the most comon place to inject? the thigh? rear end?

 

[LVTitan]

wow , you really have a LOT of reading and researching to do. if you look thru these forums and past threads, all of your questions will be answered.
glutes,delts,quads,bi's,tri's,calves,lats,pecs....
i use quads myself, sometimes glutes.