Looking for expert advice after bad first cycle

[Jtoid]

Alright guys am knew to this site and want to ask a few questions in search of my never ending research on AS. I am 6'5 21 and weigh 108 kks (think thats about 235lbs, from the UK so only deal in kgs!) anyway have been lifting for about 3-4 yrs as well as play rugby. In the past i have only ever used creatine and protein and after a lot of research i tried my first AS cycle a few months back. i was not ready for injections and had not done enugh research into it. well this cycle was of cle,cytomel,sustanozolol- all orals. it was rubbish- did nothing for me. Think i was ripped off. Anyway after more extensive research i now have a good trustworthy source and after a lot of help have my first cycle. What do you guys (experienced ones) think of this- whats your opinions? suspected gains> here goes

Week 1-5 30mg Dbol ED (as a kick start)
Week 1-11 500mg Test enan EW (2 x 250mg)
Week 1-10 400mg Deca EW (2 x 200mg)

appreciate your opinions, time and advice

 

[2Thick]

Your first mistake was t use a thyroid hormone in your cycle. i would recommend to stay away from any thyroid hormone from now on.

As for your cycle...

The deca dosage is too high. Use a max of 300mg/week.
The Enanthate is fine but try to inject as often as possible to keep your test levels relatively stable (thereby reducing some sides).
The dbol is fine.

Do not forget about clomid and have some proviron on hand in case of gyno.

If you eat, sleep and train correctly then you should see between 12-18 pounds from this cycle and hopefully keep ~80%.

 

[Silent Method]

The deca dosage is too high. Use a max of 300mg/week.

Do you recomend this as the max deca dosage for any user? What are your reasons? It's impact on the HTPA?

 

[2Thick]

Do you recomend this as the max deca dosage for any user? What are your reasons? It's impact on the HTPA?

The max dosage for experienced users should be 400mg/week.

This is his first cycle and he does not need more than 300mg/week.

Yes, it is very hard on the HPTA and you usually suffer through 3 months on 'down time' after a cycle. The less you use, the better off you are.

 

[Silent Method]

Do you feel there are better choices giving similar effect with less side effect?

 

[2Thick]

Do you feel there are better choices giving similar effect with less side effect?

EQ is the best alternative although you will not gain as much mass with EQ (as opposed to Deca)

 

[DJ_UFO]

Alright guys am knew to this site and want to ask a few questions in search of my never ending research on AS. I am 6'5 21 and weigh 108 kks (think thats about 235lbs, from the UK so only deal in kgs!) anyway have been lifting for about 3-4 yrs as well as play rugby. In the past i have only ever used creatine and protein and after a lot of research i tried my first AS cycle a few months back. i was not ready for injections and had not done enugh research into it. well this cycle was of cle,cytomel,sustanozolol- all orals. it was rubbish- did nothing for me. Think i was ripped off. Anyway after more extensive research i now have a good trustworthy source and after a lot of help have my first cycle. What do you guys (experienced ones) think of this- whats your opinions? suspected gains> here goes

Week 1-5 30mg Dbol ED (as a kick start)
Week 1-11 500mg Test enan EW (2 x 250mg)
Week 1-10 400mg Deca EW (2 x 200mg)

appreciate your opinions, time and advice

why you have more than 500 posts if you are a newb??

 

[Slyder190]

Cycle

Oral Sustanozolol? Someone had a good laugh at your expense. I agree with 2Thick, but me personally, I don't see the harm in 400mg Deca.

 

[BigB_79]

Re: Re: Looking for expert advice after bad first cycle

why you have more than 500 posts if you are a newb??

When you go platinum, it atomatically gives you 500 posts.

 

[Mini Viper]

as posted by BigB_79

When you go platinum, it atomatically gives you 500 posts.

I think that sucks, just cos he went platinum he does not have the rights of automatic 500 posts with two greeen karma lights!! He didnt exactly earn those by helping bros out on the board did he!!!! He got given it .
The system should be changed somehow to reflect their input and sound advice on the board.

Now I feel better thats off my chest.

 

[Triggerman2003]

I have to say I am with MiniViper on this about the posts, but I ain't the boss.

 

[Jtoid]

cheers for the advice and help guys, and as for as the rest of you guys stop being bitches about me posting a message. i did not know that would happen by becoming a platinum member. i want to do as much research as possible before i do this seriously. so if your pissed off and your period is making you that grumpy go on another thread, i came on here for help and advice not to be flamed

 

[Silent Method]

as posted by BigB_79


I think that sucks, just cos he went platinum he does not have the rights of automatic 500 posts with two greeen karma lights!! He didnt exactly earn those by helping bros out on the board did he!!!! He got given it .
The system should be changed somehow to reflect their input and sound advice on the board.

Now I feel better thats off my chest.

Considering that he is one of the financial facilitators of this board, and we are not, I'm willing to forgive the placing of 3 numeric characters under the guy's screen name.

 

[Mini Viper]

as posted by Silent Method

Considering that he is one of the financial facilitators of this board, and we are not, I'm willing to forgive the placing of 3 numeric characters under the guy's screen name.

Aha, my apologies!!

 

[BigPapaPump]

I don't see anything wrong with your cycle.

I'd say there is tons of improvement to made in your diet. 6'5" and 237 lbs.....you need to eat more! I have never played rugby but could only imagine how many calories your must burn while playing. Are your considering this factor into your diet? All the gear in the world will not help if you don't eat enough.

Good luck and keep us posted.

For the complainers, does it really matter how many posts he has? He came here and asked for help, if you can not help him them stop wasting board space.........wait a minute...maybe you're trying to add to your post totals.

BPP

 

[flex2win]

200-300mg/wk with deca is a good, safe dosage. the only time i used deca(norma) was @200mg/wk, crazy gains, no sides....up 37 lbs. but when i lost that water...ohhhh boy!!!

 

[BigB_79]

I just went platinum. I had some karma and 130+ posts before, but I only get 500 posts and not 500 + 130. I would think I would have got what I had before plus what you get for going platinum. Oh well.

 

[Lestat]

post count doesn't mean anything..

I've got a ton of posts, but I'm no expert.. I'm a newbie in many ways.

 

[Triggerman2003]

I'm sorry (sniff).

 

[ebear]

Week 1-5 30mg Dbol ED (as a kick start)
Week 1-11 500mg Test enan EW (2 x 250mg)
Week 1-10 400mg Deca EW (2 x 200mg)

Looks like a good cycle. Given your size, I don't find 400mg deca to be too much. But if you feel like taking a more cautious approach, you might consider limiting your cycle to two AAS, like just test & dbol or test & deca. Both of those have worked well for me.

 

[Jtoid]

thanks for the input and replies. going to start on it next week- ill let you know my progress.