Looking for advice and guidance

[Sicko3dc]

I'm 22 yrs old
5'7 170lbs 16bf
I've always loved working out however Ive hit my Plateau on both strength and size. I was recently deployed an spent the time hitting the gym as much as possible but I quickly reached my current weight and haven't passed it. I'm looking to try my first 3 month stack, I'm looking to hear what advice you guys can give. My goal is 180-185lbs I want mostly strength and cutting. Please let me know what you guys think I should use for both my cycle and post

 

[mad4training]

Have you tried a supplement stack with creatine, BCAAs and beta alanine along with training systems like super accumulation or planned overtraining and got ur diet sorted. If answer is yes to all those, then think about juicing. If not you should try these other options first.

 

[brownbrown]

What did your diet look like on theater?
I know there's plenty of food, but what did you eat?

What are you open to take? PH's, AAS , or supplement stacks as Mad4 stated?

 

[Essie]

Welcome to EF!

Do you have anything specific in mind? Have you had a look at different test cycles as of yet?

Usually we prefer that guys come here after having done some research prior ...

I'll lay you out a virgin-cycle for you now, but then I want you to commit to researching the stuff I mention and get bak to me with breakdowns and explanations of why you think I suggested the things I did.

Wk 1-12 - Test Cyp @ 350mg/wk, pinned as 175mg on Mon & again on Thu.
Have Aromasin on hand to counter Gyno
Use HCGenerate on cycle ... 3 caps AM & 2 PM

PCT:

Wk 14-17 the following:
Post Cycle+Unleashed Combo
HCGenerate
Forma Stanozol

Then, if you want to cycle again, wait another 17 Weeks before you cycle again.

 

[Sicko3dc]

Yes I'm current taking gnc's wheybolic 60 for after my workouts, theyre mass xxx for during the day, and they're Casine for when I sleep. Also mp's armor v multi vitamins, l-cartinine (forgot how to spell it) green tea extract, omega 3, blox for the bcaa's, and the test/ pre workout stack (alarm is the pre an I believe it's called test 7) just started that test though. I cycled off test supps for a month an now back on. Also my diet was amazing when I was deployed tha and I'm trying the paleo diet now

 

[Judo Tom]

id stick w/ the paleo diet for a while and see what you think... if you do that and train hard you should get to 10% NP.

then see where your weight is after you lean up.

 

[rich_89]

Beastdrol. Check out the needtobuildmuscle website and run it exactly has needto outlines on there. It's a hell of a stack, and you will love it.

Forget injectables for first cycle.

 

[Sicko3dc]

@essie
Ima give the paleo diet a month till the end of August an see where I'm at and in the mean time im going to look up the info you gave me an give you an answer like you asked.
Thanks everyone for your help so far

 

[Sicko3dc]

@rich
So stick to orals for my first stack? Isn't that hard on the liver

 

[brownbrown]

Benefits = Cost It's what you're willing to do.

Liquids have their inherent dangers just like Orals.

 

[mad4training]

Paleo is a great system. I am totally dairy and wheat intolerant so I use paleo religiously. I would say starting out go with 1 compound at moderately supra-therapeutic dose. Testosterone cyp or enanthate at 200-400mg a week, or possibly primobolan depot at same dosage if you can afford it. Test is most similar to what ur body is used to so probably best.

 

[Sicko3dc]

On average how much u think it'll run me so I dnt get ripped off?

 

[brownbrown]

On average how much u think it'll run me so I dnt get ripped off?

No Cost talk of AAS. Zip. zilch. Nada.

 

[brownbrown]

Read the rules of the AAS forum

#1) EF is not a source board. We don't discuss any aspect of buying and selling. This includes source names, UG labs, UG brand names, UG quality checks, prices, payment methods, shipping, receiving, Customs, etc.

 

[Sicko3dc]

That's totally understandable

 

[dylangemelli]

i think its good to start with an oral first... you run n2guard alongside it to protect your liver and bp and the toxicity will be much less... helladrol is an excellent first cycle... whatever you decide, let me know and i'll definitely help you set up a proper cycle...

 

[Sicko3dc]

@dylan
So I searched helladrol on google an the first website that came I seen you posted about the stack. Can you explain that stack to me?

 

[bonacris]

@dylan
So I searched helladrol on google an the first website that came I seen you posted about the stack. Can you explain that stack to me?

I think hella/katana would be a good 1st cycle.. Dylan set me up a fucking awesome stack and is def the man to talk to about PHs..

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[dylangemelli]

@dylan
So I searched helladrol on google an the first website that came I seen you posted about the stack. Can you explain that stack to me?

i need you to be a bit more specific bro... what do you want to know?

if you want a good read on helladrol, read my log and then go to https://www.mrsupps.com/Products/7/Helladrol/ and read up there as well...

helladrol is a perfect starter ph... the sides are very minimal and the gains can be awesome if your training and diet are spot on...

 

[Sicko3dc]

I ment like you added alot to the stack I was wondering why you chose to add those supps whats there benefits

 

[dylangemelli]

I ment like you added alot to the stack I was wondering why you chose to add those supps whats there benefits

well like n2guard you need to protect your liver and bp... i use forma stanzol to prevent gyno and add extra shred because it dries you out... you want hcgenerate to help prevent on cycle shutdown... you could add transaderm if you want a test base as it goes with helladrol nicely... i can set you up a cycle if you like, just let me know...