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looking for a good first cycle

Of course if you want gain muscle witouth bloating and acne the best cycle it is the number 2 ( deca and Winny ). You are use a AAS that not aromatize. The gains will be not dramatic but a hard muscle gains will obtain, maybe a 10 pounds of solid muscle. But remember to train hard and eat well too.
A post cycle "ligth" teraphy must be necessary, for Deca action that have progestin activity. Clomid take for three or four week after the cycle is possibly necesary. Start to take it one weeek after last deca shot
 
Keep it stupid, keep it simple.

sust 250 mg week 1-8

Maybe dbols at 20 mg week 1-8

But with sust alone you'll grow for sure.
 
You’re going to do a contest? And you’re worried about bloating?
Well you chouldn’t take test or dbol. It can aromatize easily, so you could get bloated.
Deca is a good choice, but i think Fina is better. Winny is also a good choice. Maybe add some Primo.
Fina 75mg ed, last couple of weeks 75 mg eod.
Winny 30mg a day orally, 50mg eod if you inject. (you can go up to 50mg a day)
Primo 200 – 400 mg a week.

This will do it. You don’t need any anti-e if you got the real stuff.
Some clomid post cycle to keep gains and you’ll be fine…

Good luck
 
wow, thanks everybody for your help. i would say i'll tell u how it goes...but i doubt anyone will care:), but thanks again.

-ez
 
8 week cycle-very simple

Test Cypionate@400/mgs (200mg/twice weekly) weeks 1-8
Dianabol@30mgs/day (10 mgs 3 x's/day with food) weeks 1-6

Consume 2 grams protein per lb of bodyweight daily.
Get to where you are drinking a gallon of water a day.

I would add Liquidex at .5mg/day to keep off bloat. That and a very CLEAN diet should keep bloat away.

And, as HUCK said:
"Nolvadex on hand in case of gyno symptoms. If symptoms(which include itchiness,soreness behind arreola)occur,start at 40mgs/day until symptoms subside,then 20mgs/day for remainder of the cycle up till clomid therapy.
Clomid for post cycle recovery(started 2 weeks after last test injection)ran as so...
Day 1)300mgs
Days 2-12)100mgs/day
Days 13-21)50mgs/day"
 
Why is it that i get the feeling that you are not ready for AS???

How old are you? What are your stats?

It concerns me that NOBODY else on this thread asked the same question.
 
ezryd said:
Thanks for all of the great cycles. With these cycles

dbol 25mg/day week 1-6
sust 500mg/week week 1-10
deca 400mg/week week 1-10

and

deca 400mg/week week 1-10
wini 50mg/day week 1-10

and

Test@250/mgs week for 8 weeks
dianabol@20mgs/day for weeks 1-5
eq@300mgs/week for 10 weeks

what can expect my weight gain to be? As well as possible sides, because i am trying to stay away from acne and bloating. All things considered, of those three which will work best?

thanks a ton


10 weeks of winny is way too much. Just run test at 400-500 mg/week. If you eat likea mofo and train hard and smart, then you will grow just as good off of a test only cycle.
 
Dial_tone said:


I knew he wasn't ready as soon as I read the first sentence. 5'10" 165 lbs.....gimme a break. I may have been 18 when I first juiced but I was 5'8" 171 and coming off my first contest win.
I didn't bring it up cuz he wouldn't have listened anyway and I'm sure people are getting tired of my endless "you're not ready for juice" rants.

ditto
 
hey thanks for the concern guys, im 21...and i can't help it if im genetically size challenged....my bad for tryin to get some friendly advice...let the thrashings continue.
 
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