long time lurker test advice

[enjoey]

Gentlemen, Hello. From reading through the forums for a while I've noticed everyone wants a lot of info before intellectual banter begins, so here we go! I am a 28 year old 6'0 190lb caucasian male. I am an ex collegiate athlete with 14+ years experience with power lifting, cross training, and intensity work. I see that many want bf %. I would say 15% as that is a reasonable assumption as water displacement tests are not in my current budget, lol! During high school/college I experimented with different PHs and test boosters that all require PCT and on cycle support. So I have a basic idea of the scheduling and importance of both. My current passion is Olympic lifting coupled with intensity training in the form of crossfit. Sadly, I believe I have hit a wall on my max lifts. Endurance is good, but I would like to see myself break trhough some personal barriers. OH, and also could use some added size, haha! My diet is clean as I practice a paleo diet and lifestyle. I have decided to take advantage of current situation and resources available and try a first time testosterone cypionate cycle. I am looking for a basic starting cycle. This is what I have come up with so far:

cycle
test cyp 1-12 500mgs wk
arimidex 1mg/day (wks 1-4) 0.5mgs/day (5-12)
(week 13 off) <--I have been told to take this week off from all gear/AI

PCT
arimidex 0.25mgs/day (wks 14-15) 0.25mgs/EOD (wks 16-17)
clomid 200mgs/day (wk 14) 100mgs/day (wk 15) 50mgs/day (wk 16) 25mgs/day (wk 17- 18)

Let me know what you guys think. I am totally open for suggestions! Possibly adding some hCG (kinda pricey). If there are any over the counter natural test booster I should run on cycle to keep my nuts from shrinking up let me know. Thanks in advance!

 

[millser4]

looks good bro besides the crazy high dose of clomid just run 25mg. throughout entire pct and add post cycle/unleashed combo from needtobuildmuscle.net

 

[enjoey]

looks good bro besides the crazy high dose of clomid just run 25mg. throughout entire pct and add post cycle/unleashed combo from needtobuildmuscle.net

Cool! I have run the unleashed/post cycle combo in the past good stuff! think i should use HCGen on cycle for me nuts, lol!?

 

[chesty]

I would drop clomid (shits nasty) and use aromasin myself instead of arimidex. I have good luck with letrozole and nolvadex as well. You can also use Formastanzol. I'm not a fan of cycles less than 16 weeks, but 12 weeks will work.

Otherwise, your test doses seem reasonable.

 

[enjoey]

I would drop clomid (shits nasty) and use aromasin myself instead of arimidex. I have good luck with letrozole and nolvadex as well. You can also use Formastanzol. I'm not a fan of cycles less than 16 weeks, but 12 weeks will work.

Otherwise, your test doses seem reasonable.

Thanks, Chesty! What would the dosing look like on these new compounds you listed?

 

[chesty]

depending on what u need I would take 20-60 mg of nolvadex a day during and 25 mg aromason rod and letro at .5-1 mg ed. My doses and frequency were/ are much greater, but I am a bit more susceptible to gyno than some. I do the above during a cycle and then reduce and use as needed during my cruise/off cycle.

I would also get hcg and take 250 iu/twice a week. The forms I use ten pumps a day off or on cycle.

 

[enjoey]

depending on what u need I would take 20-60 mg of nolvadex a day during and 25 mg aromason rod and letro at .5-1 mg ed. My doses and frequency were/ are much greater, but I am a bit more susceptible to gyno than some. I do the above during a cycle and then reduce and use as needed during my cruise/off cycle.

I would also get hcg and take 250 iu/twice a week. The forms I use ten pumps a day off or on cycle.

Thanks for the help/advice! When should I start the hcg?

 

[enjoey]

I have tweaked the previous cycle a bit. It may be a little over kill, but let me know what to eliminate. Some of the over the counter stuff I just threw in there as more of a question.

cycle
test cyp 1-12 500mgs wk
hcg 250 iu 2 x wk (wks 3-12)
Arimidex 1mg/day (wks 1-4) 0.5mgs/day (5-12)
HCGen (8-12)?
(week 13 off) <--I have been told to take this week off from all gear/AI

PCT
Arimidex 0.25mgs/day (wks 14-15) 0.25mgs/EOD (wks 16-17)
hcg 250 iu 2 x wk (wks 14-17)
Unleashed/Post Cycle (wks 14-17)
Nolvadex 20mgs ed (wks 14-15) 10mgs ed (wks 16-17)

 

[Zyglamail]

I have tweaked the previous cycle a bit. It may be a little over kill, but let me know what to eliminate. Some of the over the counter stuff I just threw in there as more of a question.

cycle
test cyp 1-12 500mgs wk
hcg 250 iu 2 x wk (wks 3-12)
Arimidex 1mg/day (wks 1-4) 0.5mgs/day (5-12)
HCGen (8-12)?
(week 13 off) <--I have been told to take this week off from all gear/AI

PCT
Arimidex 0.25mgs/day (wks 14-15) 0.25mgs/EOD (wks 16-17)
hcg 250 iu 2 x wk (wks 14-17)
Unleashed/Post Cycle (wks 14-17)
Nolvadex 20mgs ed (wks 14-15) 10mgs ed (wks 16-17)

This looks much better. Probably dont need nolva at all if your using HCG through cycle.

You also probably dont need 1mg ana every day either. I would probably try eod at first and see if its enough.

 

[zedhed]

Dam good advice there from Chesty and Zyg.
Your all set to go not enjoey, ENJOY!!