Long time cycle need PCT help

[flotown]

So I've been on gear now for about a year and a half straight. I've been doing a lot of powerlifting and strongman. The only reason I stayed on so long is because I was gonna try to go pro once I got out of juniors. But now things have got to change. I have twin baby girls on the way. I want to be the best dad I can and I know I won't be able to manage that with my training and all the money I put towards steroids.

But now I don't really even know where to start with pct. How long? How much? I need as much help as I can get.

Thanks guys

 

[Jon79]

depends what were u on and how much and how long

 

[access]

Yeah, that's a long time to be on. What doseages and compounds? Have you had any bloodwork done?

 

[flotown]

Well right now I'm on
1000mgs test
600mgs eq
350mgs tren ace

Compounds for the whole time have been a lot. It would be a really annoying list to look at. Its been a few monthes since I've had blood work. Should I assume I'm going to be on hrt.

 

[Varga]

How did you get your wife pregnant if you are shut down?

 

[flotown]

bump for help

 

[Varga]

Dude I'm trying to help you but you do not get it......If you are able to get your wife pregnant then your nuts are still somewhat working and that's a big plus!

Did you ever do HCG at all?
You do not give out any info like ancilliarries taken or what bridging you used etc...Speak up bro

 

[booby]

How did you get your wife pregnant if you are shut down?

The milk man?

 

[solidspine]

1000iu HCG for 10 days with Nolvadex
30 days of Clomid at 50mg a day,


If you are not back to normal


Repeat

 

[flotown]

Dude I'm trying to help you but you do not get it......If you are able to get your wife pregnant then your nuts are still somewhat working and that's a big plus!

Did you ever do HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - at all?
You do not give out any info like ancilliarries taken or what bridging you used etc...Speak up bro

Sorry man I appreciate your help. Your right my nuts should be working or they were about 3 monthes ago. No HCG or bridging. It was a blast and cruise the whole time.

 

[flotown]

1000iu HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - for 10 days with Nolvadex
30 days of Clomid at 50mg a day,


If you are not back to normal


Repeat

WOW is that all. I was expecting a lot more. I'll have to get some bloodwork.

 

[access]

Having got your wife pregnant is a good thing. I would be a little more aggressive than that suggested. I would start taking some Arimidex now if your not already to ease coming off and not rebounding with estrogen and continue during PCT up till commencement of Nolva. Also lower your doseages over coming weeks to avoid going catabolic. Say 4 weeks to ease off. On the last week start HCG at 5000iu's over 3-4 days. Do this again for another 2 weeks once cycle is finished for a total of 15,000IU's HCG over 3 weeks. Then start the nolva at 20mgs/day for 4 weeks. You could also add in some Clen or IGF to assist with muscle retention during PCT.

 

[access]

Also once finished with the nolva wait a week and have bloodwork done to see where your at.

 

[GUARDIAN]

So I've been on gear now for about a year and a half straight. I've been doing a lot of powerlifting and strongman. The only reason I stayed on so long is because I was gonna try to go pro once I got out of juniors. But now things have got to change. I have twin baby girls on the way. I want to be the best dad I can and I know I won't be able to manage that with my training and all the money I put towards steroids.

But now I don't really even know where to start with PCT - post cycle therapy - . How long? How much? I need as much help as I can get.

Thanks guys

hate to change the subject but I am curious how did u do in juniors to date?

 

[Varga]

The milk man?

That's funny ...LOL

 

[Varga]

Sorry man I appreciate your help. Your right my nuts should be working or they were about 3 monthes ago. No HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - or bridging. It was a blast and cruise the whole time.

Before you start PCT - post cycle therapy - you need to stop current cycle, especially trenbolone and do a 6-8 weeks of 200-300mg test/week and Primobolan - methenolone - at 400mg(optional), to start getting your body back to earth again. Without this buffer period your PCT is almost useless and can be 2x as long as it sould be. Stopping cold turkey from a 1 1/2 years of gear on trenbolone nevertheless is going to fuck you up my friend very bad. Wind you cycle down, believe me is worth it, reality is way different on gear than off gear...and depression can be a pain in the ass.
Then after that you can do PCT

 

[mattdan]

The above p c to adivce is pretty dead on. Only change I may make is to extend the hcg. Also - don't start pct until about 2 weeks after your last shot.

To mix things up a bit - you might consider dropping everything but the test and do 100mg EW of cyp or enanth for about a month so the EQ and shit can work out of your body. Then start pct 2 weeks after your last shot.

Be warned bro - being on that much shit for that long - it ain't gonna return to normal over night. It may take several months so be prepared and have clomid and hcg on hand as needed.

Good luck and post some friggin pics bro!!!!

PS - In your situation you may need to do some OTC supplements also like Derma or post cycle after your typical p c t. OTC stuff does work, although I've never personally used either of those products I've used similar.

 

[Para_Shoot]

So I've been on gear now for about a year and a half straight. I've been doing a lot of powerlifting and strongman. The only reason I stayed on so long is because I was gonna try to go pro once I got out of juniors. But now things have got to change. I have twin baby girls on the way. I want to be the best dad I can and I know I won't be able to manage that with my training and all the money I put towards steroids.

But now I don't really even know where to start with PCT - post cycle therapy - . How long? How much? I need as much help as I can get.

Thanks guys

Well buddy, I got you beat by 6 months. I have been on for two solid years straight but never over 400/500mgs total a week. Just constant low doses of test prop with either EQ, tren enanthate or primobolan. I am in my 4th week of PCT and I've done pretty much what is suggested for you. The idea of taking proviron while on PCT has also been suggested to me. I am nowheres near being "back to normal", as the only normal thing now is viagra. I keep pushing on with PCT so I hope things start to get better for me. I'm not looking forward to HRT if thats what needs to be.

 

[Varga]

The above p c to adivce is pretty dead on. Only change I may make is to extend the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . Also - don't start PCT - post cycle therapy - until about 2 weeks after your last shot.

To mix things up a bit - you might consider dropping everything but the test and do 100mg EW of testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate for about a month so the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and shit can work out of your body. Then start PCT - post cycle therapy - 2 weeks after your last shot.

Be warned bro - being on that much shit for that long - it ain't gonna return to normal over night. It may take several months so be prepared and have clomid and HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - on hand as needed.

Good luck and post some friggin pics bro!!!!

PS - In your situation you may need to do some OTC supplements also like Derma or post cycle after your typical p c t. OTC stuff does work, although I've never personally used either of those products I've used similar.

I forget to add that during that winding down period HCG use is a must. Good point!

 

[Varga]

Well buddy, I got you beat by 6 months. I have been on for two solid years straight but never over 400/500mgs total a week. Just constant low doses of test testosterone propionate with either Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , trenbolone enanthate or primobolan. I am in my 4th week of PCT - post cycle therapy - and I've done pretty much what is suggested for you. The idea of taking proviron while on PCT has also been suggested to me. I am nowheres near being "back to normal", as the only normal thing now is viagra. I keep pushing on with PCT so I hope things start to get better for me. I'm not looking forward to HRT if thats what needs to be.

Good luck to you bro!
Do at least 6-8 weeks of PCT
Are you taking some low dose aromasin to keep that estrogen down?

 

[Para_Shoot]

Good luck to you bro!
Do at least 6-8 weeks of PCT - post cycle therapy -
Are you taking some low dose aromasin to keep that estrogen down?

Actually, instead of Nolvadex, I'm using AIFM for estrogen control. I'll let you know how it goes.

 

[Varga]

Actually, instead of Nolvadex, I'm using AIFM for estrogen control. I'll let you know how it goes.

Good deal bro, never tried that AIFM but I heard it might work....I would be interested to know if it works in your case.
If you feel that your recovery is dragging jump on low dose aromasin!
Peace