I couldn't resist the $15 10cc 250mg cyp to try for myself- love cyp-but this was total shit in every way-weak, dirty, not worth $5. I wouldn't give loeffler to a 12 year old mutthound now that I know for myself. Everyone should make it a point with their sources that they will not buy loeffler becuase it just plain sux. Company needs to be out of business.